EVE General Discussion

I've been an on-off player since March. I've read articles in EON, read other forum threads and Corp chat.

I only read the title of your post, rolled my eyes and struggled through the first few lines before giving up. TL;DR, indeed.

You've forgotten or ignored two basic points:

1) You're not dealing with with a scripted AI opponent but other human beings who can screw up, annoy others or lie and cheat.

2) The bigger an organisation becomes, the more likelihood you might have some said human beings who will do the above in its ranks.

It's not rocket science, it's simple human nature - one of the things that makes EVE so damn interesting to play.

Interesting replies. #1 anyone that flys in 0.0 knows PL doesn’t hold any space themselves. #2 correct were talking bout non NPC’s. #3 We are talking about seriously putting them on the defensive, forcing them to become reactive, not proactive. #4 No one ever said it was going to be easy. #5 yes the plan is in fact full of flaws, but it will work, nothing ventured nothing gained!. #6 Goone cant hold it, non can, with out PL running around and shoring up the weak spots.

Ahhh, and #7, Doesn’t everyone think PL will work so very hard to discourage this?

XIX message: "not mandatory" It would be mandatory, if I wanted to take over or destroy a hostile alliance. The sooner the enemy is defeated the better. This seems not to be the case here.

Their first big battle looks on paper pretty intense.Whoever flew through Solar Fleet space saw there more Machariel, t3 and shiny PVE ships than anywhere else. I do not want to know, how many digits the number of ISK has, which XIX made from their renter program. It is by far the most successful of all Eve history. Both sides are so filthy rich. They sure can affort this.

Right now this conflict will not change anything. These 2 Russian alliances were some of hte potentical threats against the Southern Coalition or a hypothetical Goon invasion in the North and still are. The core DRF are not need in the South as it looked so far. NC. Raiden, PL, WN, Ev0ke and the RA block have the Southern Coalition and the Curse alliances under control. It would only become interesting, if the RA block has to fight alone. Then they will lose systems most likely. Until their other blues decide to help them again.



I would like to take a closer look on what the options for Supercapital pilots are:

We all know, in PL it is pretty much carte blanche.

If somebody is a Supercapital pilot in the Southern Coalition, he is in a complicated situation. He can try to sneak in a hostile system and reinforce something. This might work. However the enemy gets of course the message and the timer. DRF still can choose to do nothing and let the Southern Coalition take some systems, while they prepare a trap. They sure do this then. The trap will come and there is nothing Southern Coalition can do to counter with having way less Supercapitals than the DRF.

It changes the whole game so much.

Maybe our brave Southern Coalition SC pilot put a lot of time in reinforcing and conquering something. At some point, when DRF think, it is enough: they time an op with an SC fleet and reverse all that effort in a split part of the time, which the enemies needed. Often the party, which has not enough Supers, reinforces with Drakes or BS a tower, which takes way longer than sending a Supercapital fleet, because they are too careful (rightfully too careful) to deploy Supers.

Repeat this a couple of times and most players say, screw it, I have better things to do. This is one of the reasons, why the subscrpitions are falling and why nothing big is changing anymore. It is like in a dictatorship, when the military and intelligence is too strong. Many dictatorships are very stable and can not be broken from inside. This is why I do not share the opinion with the optimists, who say, it will circle again to something else. Sure, some time in the far future there will be something else, maybe even another game from CCP. You have to consider the motivations of groups, who can do a coup. I see no motivation for them to change things. They are the winning team. The majority of humans always like to join the winners. In Eve the winners became bigger than any other coalition ever was.

They will be all happy, get bored and have to pew each other or take over lowsec as well. But my money is on eating each other.

Whelp, I guess the game is over, and they all lived happily ever after.