EVE General Discussion

NO THIS IS NOT AN 'EvE IS DYING' THREAD! I BELIEVE THAT EvE IS VARY MUCH ALIVE ATM!

I hope that EvE will last many more years, but all good things must come to an end at some point whether it's because the servers will shut down or because too few people will play EvE as it becomes unpopular.

So my question is, how many years do you think that EvE will last?

Everytime someone says EVE is Dying, a player biomasses. You can do the math from there, Q.Q


Think of the players!

It's just twitching on the ground right now. No amount of bullets and insults shouted at the dying body of EVE will kill it as it is right now. You can see the suffering and pain in EVE's eyes as it pleads you to let it finally die but alas the bittervets injected even more moon goo and renter ISK into EVE just to see EVE squirm even harder as it edges between Dying and still functioning. Then you have the newbies that give EVE lots of sustenance and denies it from dying in the form of forum tears on how EVE should be and having EVE see their armor tanked autocannon moa wrecks with speed rigs.

Also once or twice a year the bittervets crush EVE's nodes under their combined weight as they drag as much bittervets and newbies into sov wars then take time to rest. But alas EVE has no reprieve as soon as the sov war ends it'll be fed even more tears in the form of ignorant highsec carebears that demand another sov war and thus prolonging EVE's state between Dying and just barely alive.

You should all be ashamed of yourselves for letting a game such as EVE suffer. Just let it die already.

It will last a very long time. Eve has a very anemic growth rate but an incredibly huge retention rate and a significant rate of player return. Currently, economically it's already somewhat stalled out, yet we receive a fairly decent pace of improvement and expansion.
*Snip* Please refrain from discussing other (non-EvE/Dust/Valkyrie) games. ISD Ezwal.. People often remember fondly 'the good ole days' but back then the player base was significantly smaller. A lot of the game's development happened with a smaller player base and less money.

Also, while competition will stiffen things up, none of the other games are attempting to match what has always made Eve unique: CCP supports the player base acting like total psychopaths. Nowhere will you ever be able to screw someone over like in Eve. Eve will always be unique, so SOMEBODY will always be playing it.

Not to mention, Eve does have some pretty intense stuff in store. Player built star gates will make the sandbox infinite in shape. And Valkyrie and Legion and potential integration of these games will ensure that Eve supplies an incredible range of play that others will be hard to match. There's a good chance that Eve will return to the growth rate of the last few years or exceed it.

No worries. Eve will be very very hard to kill. The game is better than it ever has been but is in a bit of a rough patch for various reasons and people get scared about new games coming out and all, but Eve actually shutting down is pretty inconceivable. It's got another decade in it easy.

People still play Everquest, man.

This is always an interesting debate.

Eve was my very first MMO. I have tried others, and there is an undeniable uniqueness to New Eden. It's also home to one of the most dedicated communities I have ever seen in my 20 years of gaming.

However, for most of it's life, Eve has had very, very little in the way of competition.
*Snip* Please refrain from discussing other (non-EvE/Dust/Valkyrie) games. ISD Ezwal.

However, competition just means better things for the players, so every month, every quarter, I anticipate more games stepping up to compete for a piece of Eve's pie.
*Snip* Please refrain from discussing other (non-EvE/Dust/Valkyrie) games. ISD Ezwal.

Another interesting way to look at is where will the players go if Eve does go bottom up. Currently, no other MMO allows what Eve does (scamming, borderline griefing, open PVP on a single server cluster). As such, Eve contains, you guessed it, what many other communities view as "belligerent undesirables". Currently, the cutthroat gameplay they crave cannot be had anywhere else.

There is no doubt in my mind that the sub money from Eve keeps CCP's office electricity on. I'd love to see the universe expand, and I'm a huge fan of the lore, which can be expanded so much more. But is CCP a one trick pony with Eve? Or can they eventually make another game that can last over a decade?

Time will tell.

Hopefully till October, when my subs run out.

EVE is not a good thing. EVE just like RL is a good thing for people who play and live with it, and of course people die, but RL (lets call it Multiverse1) goes no matter who dies and born. It is same for EVE (multiverse 2), it doesn't care who log-in the server and live in the multiverse2. Do you think multiverse1 will come to an end at some point? I don't think so. Just inhabitants come and go. That's it.

*Snip* Please refrain from discussing other (non-EvE/Dust/Valkyrie) games. ISD Ezwal. That means that CCP will (have to) focus more on PVP related content to keep and enhance its niche; less super safe silliness, reverting changes that have been happening for years to make it more mainstream (or at least stopping the inevitableness of it).

It also makes EVE less of a candidate to be taken over by a "larger entity" (EA). It's win-win really.

+1 for creativity and not just saying "IB4L"



EvE will never die. Only the heretics say otherwise. I
*Snip* Please refrain from discussing other (non-EvE/Dust/Valkyrie) games. ISD Ezwal.

At least another 5 years.