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Maximus Tyberius
Free People United Inc.
#141 - 2014-08-24 00:09:36 UTC
It doesn't matter, C.O.D.E. can't stand a fight against REAL PVPers from a wormhole alliance. Just like Goonswarm....
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#142 - 2014-08-24 04:44:22 UTC
YinKo Toranaga wrote:
Revis Owen wrote:
Cheating in AT = Disqualification from that AT, but no perma-ban.
"Infraction X" in AT = Permaban from AT.

Could someone please fill in "Infraction X" above, which CODE. alliance committed. Obviously, "Infraction X" must be far, far worse than cheating. No-showing, even no-showing without warning, isn't worse than cheating.

If 1) no-showing without warning = AT permaban, then surely:
2) cheating = AT permaban at least, if not EVE permaban.

What was CODE.'s "Infraction X"? Because if we're just talking about "no-show without warning", I'm not seeing correct proportionality in CCP's sanction of that relative to how they sanctioned pure cheating.


Infraction X is deliberately screwing around with CCP and messing with their tournament. Notice I say "deliberately" - because it is pretty obvious that loyalanon decided to say "screw CCP" and just pull a no-show instead of withdrawing. The failure of you guys to respond in any way to CCP's inquiry was just your way of flipping them off -

so they decided to flip you all off instead with a permaban from the AT.

I'd say that is the opinion over at CCP, and it is their opinion that counts since - contrary to the opinion of James 315 - it is their game and not yours.

Well, as was pointed out a little earlier, it wasn't just a no show.

They showed up, but when they were informed of what the bans were for the match they all decided to log off in unison and then not respond to CCP's efforts to find out what was going on.

That's a much more severe infraction than simply being a no show with no notification.

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John E Normus
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#143 - 2014-08-24 06:52:22 UTC
"And a man in my position can't afford to be made to look ridiculous." ~ Jack Woltz, The Godfather part 1

Relax guys, we get it.



Between Ignorance and Wisdom
Pro TIps
Doomheim
#144 - 2014-08-24 08:34:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Pro TIps
Black Pedro wrote:
And I still don't see how failing to show up for a match (something that has been common in previous years) disrupts the tournament to any serious extent - if a team doesn't show by the deadline just declare them as forfeiting and move on.

Because CCP wants it to be an e-Sport, and that means viewers need to be entertained. That's why the tournament has rules designed to avoid long encounters, etc. The producers do not want a gap in the schedule because some pathetic excuse for a team didn't bother showing up, or giving notice that they weren't going to show up.
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#145 - 2014-08-24 22:19:32 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them. As always I let some edge cases stay.
Please people, keep it on topic and above all civil!

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Off-topic posting is permitted within reason, as sometimes a single comment may color or lighten the tone of discussion. However, excessive posting of off-topic remarks in an attempt to derail a thread may result in the thread being locked, or a forum warning being issued.


Thread re-opened.

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Petre en Thielles
Doomheim
#146 - 2014-08-25 14:47:08 UTC
Rabe Raptor wrote:
Fuji Tamura wrote:
Code knows they are a joke....and they are trying really hard to defend themselves!

If they did not care, why are they spending so much time pouring over this thread and reposting quotes and so vehemently defending a reputation they supposedly do not care about?

Go ahead CODE. and quote this on a reply and tell us again how you do not care, your pretentious tears amuse us all.



We don't care :)


If you actually didn't care you wouldn't work so hard to defend CODE in these threads...
Pleistarchus Shikkoken
Doomheim
#147 - 2014-08-25 15:45:36 UTC
loyalanon wrote:

CCP Tears - Best Tears

Do you want to buy a mining permit to ensure your safety in high sec?


You are the laugh of High Sec. You guys pretty much killed your alliance with this no show since who the hell wants to be linked with your name after you have been ridiculed in front of everyone who plays EVE and with a CCP official stamp on it.

No matter how you guys twist this, the general idea is that you guys didn't show up because of total ineptitude to face armed opposition, and after this PR disaster the best you can do is talk about CCP tears?

You guys are a bad joke that very soon will be forgotten.

RIP
La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#148 - 2014-08-25 20:02:49 UTC  |  Edited by: La Rynx
loyalanon wrote:

So Serious question and I would appreciate a response CCP Gargant.


Now you wanna talk...
By now you have been told and told, that CODE. has been permabanned for not showing at the AT *and* CODE. not even trying to justify their (non)actions to CCP. All others did.

You did some posts in the forums, but its not the Job of CCP to run after you, quite the Opposite.

Thats the reason for the permaban: Not explaining your reasons to the CCP guys. Considering those guys do AT comments on their own account w/o extra pay.

This question alone...
Seriously!
Can you really be so ignorant? When in your Blog you always boast how much smarter you are then carebears?

Atomic Virulent : "You can't spell DOUCHE. without CODE."
La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#149 - 2014-08-25 20:08:17 UTC
ooh, wait...

You don't wanna talk, you demand CCP to justify their actions to you.
I think you have lost some marbles...

Atomic Virulent : "You can't spell DOUCHE. without CODE."
Grog Aftermath
Doomheim
#150 - 2014-08-26 01:04:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Grog Aftermath
Ro Fenrios wrote:
I but the attempt for damage control and hilariously claiming that community is in tears over this


They're right about the tears, tears of laughter.




But anyway CCP made the right decision, plus it also sends a message to any other group that might be tempted to do something equally as stupid.
Amyclas Amatin
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
#151 - 2014-08-26 20:07:02 UTC
Ganking is fun, even trolling and being a nuisance is fun.

But I find discourtesy and bad manners to be incredibly ugly.

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Annie Sprookov
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#152 - 2014-08-26 22:57:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Annie Sprookov
As the debate rages on about CODE's conduct at the AT, I heard yet another tale in local

A CODE gang engaged a Freighter in a high sec gate camp, it ended when the Freighter warped off and a mop up team came in to salvage the wrecks of 5 Talos and a single Catalyst.
This David and Goliath story followed by a hearty breakfast is a good start to any day..


Are the rumors true, young bucks letting off a bit of steam, playing chicken with CODE at their high sec gate camps and walking away with bragging rights..
Annie Sprookov
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#153 - 2014-08-26 23:01:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Annie Sprookov
Below is an Exert from leaked CODE of CONDUCT Standard Operating Proceedure Manual - Page 6



[4] High Sec Gate Camp Modus Operandi continued

(c) How to perform a precision kill

C oordination is key; count clearly 'One, two, three, shoot'
O ptimise opportunity; web, scramble, throw kitchen sink
D eliver a coordinated deluge of hurt
E fficiently salvage opponent wreck and yours once Concorded

(d) Failure is not an option, in the event of failure

C lose down local chat, you don't want to know
O pen comms with target advising it was only a 'training run'
D on't accept 'I thought you said shoot on three.' This cost you the kill
E liminate that/those pilot/s from CODE, preferably after shooting them and salvaging their wreck/s




'Live by the CODE, don't die by it'

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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#154 - 2014-08-27 00:51:50 UTC
But... RVB paid CODE. 200bil to throw the fight. No? It has to be true, some CODE. guy was who earnestly believed it was going on and on about it in local. Big money! I never knew those RVB guys were that organized, cohesive, and corrupted. Ugh
La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#155 - 2014-08-27 12:43:23 UTC
Khergit Deserters wrote:
But... RVB paid CODE. 200bil to throw the fight. No? It has to be true, some CODE. guy was who earnestly believed it was going on and on about it in local. Big money! I never knew those RVB guys were that organized, cohesive, and corrupted. Ugh


The most people believing code-propaganda are codies. it dosn't matter how stupid the content is.

Atomic Virulent : "You can't spell DOUCHE. without CODE."
Amyclas Amatin
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
#156 - 2014-08-27 14:41:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Amyclas Amatin
Annie Sprookov wrote:
Below is an Exert from leaked CODE of CONDUCT Standard Operating Proceedure Manual - Page 6



[4] High Sec Gate Camp Modus Operandi continued

(c) How to perform a precision kill

C oordination is key; count clearly 'One, two, three, shoot'
O ptimise opportunity; web, scramble, throw kitchen sink
D eliver a coordinated deluge of hurt
E fficiently salvage opponent wreck and yours once Concorded

(d) Failure is not an option, in the event of failure

C lose down local chat, you don't want to know
O pen comms with target advising it was only a 'training run'
D on't accept 'I thought you said shoot on three.' This cost you the kill
E liminate that/those pilot/s from CODE, preferably after shooting them and salvaging their wreck/s




'Live by the CODE, don't die by it'

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Counting to 3 will cost us 3 precious seconds that would get facpo on top of us.

Hilarious mistakes still happen all the time though.

If you want to fabricate CODE documents you should lurk in our channels to see how the bureaucratic wanabes do it.

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Remember that whenever you have a bad day in EVE, the correct reponse is "Thank you CCP, may I please have another?"
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#157 - 2014-08-27 23:47:53 UTC
Thread dead? Wow, public made it's decision, made it's decision, and moved on I guess.
La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#158 - 2014-08-28 08:15:34 UTC  |  Edited by: La Rynx
Whats more to discuss?
code was known as a clowns troupe before, now they confirmed it them self.

They avoid fights when they meet people who know to shoot back, they brag when they shoot down beginner barges and ventures(!). They spout a lot of propaganda-lies. (No 200Bill where paid. the freighter gank wasn't reason for forfeit) and they whine when they don't get their cookies. they annoy people for hours, exchanging mail instead of playing eve nevertheless they think this stuff they du is "Elite PvP".

would be funny if they wouldn't be such sad f...s aahh people.

Atomic Virulent : "You can't spell DOUCHE. without CODE."
Annie Sprookov
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#159 - 2014-08-28 10:37:17 UTC

Ooops C.O.D.E. lends itself so easily to Acrostics, could not resist, hahaha
Maximus Tyberius
Free People United Inc.
#160 - 2014-08-28 19:23:33 UTC
Khergit Deserters wrote:
But... RVB paid CODE. 200bil to throw the fight. No? It has to be true, some CODE. guy was who earnestly believed it was going on and on about it in local. Big money! I never knew those RVB guys were that organized, cohesive, and corrupted. Ugh




LOL ... RVB is an alliance which principles are set in the basis of eternal war... why would they fear a bunch of noob gankers?