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Blood Raider Plexing- Best Amarr Ship
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Emoclew
BAMF's
#1 - 2011-12-08 18:49:25 UTC
Ok so i'm in a low area of space with blood raider pirates and i can fly pretty much all amarr sub-cap ships (only exception being the marauder). I'm currently scanning down complexes in a covops and running them in my bait drake (I have caldari ship skills for the nightmare).I can do most low sec sites fine but it cannot do the 6/10 and some of the escalations which offer the best rewards. I consider my support skills in gunnery and armor tanking pretty much perfect and a lot better than shield and missiles (i only have t2 HAMs). With the blood raiders natural weakness to amarr weapons i was wondering which ship would be best to replace the drake? I have considered legion, zealot, sacrelidge or even the harb, although of course the tank has to be pretty tough to do a 6/10 since a passive drake can't cut it.
I dont want really want a big juicy target ship, i'm good at checking directional and would be happy to risk anything less than say 700mill. I'm just looking for suggestion's/fits please :)
mxzf
Shovel Bros
#2 - 2011-12-08 22:19:02 UTC
Range/speed tanking Legion would be my first suggestion (and then you don't have to use a covops to probe anymore either). I'm definitely not an expert on Amarr ships though.
Emoclew
BAMF's
#3 - 2011-12-09 22:54:04 UTC
hmm ok i'll have a look. with a ship like that jumping it around i'd quite like a covops cloak. Any fits/ other suggestions guys? Pirate
Aamrr
#4 - 2011-12-09 22:57:44 UTC
Unfortunately, T2 Amarrian ships get bonuses to their Explosive and Kinetic resists, which makes tanking these plexes difficult.

Ideally, you'd get a T2 minmatar ship to tank for you while you do the pewpew. (Pewpew!)
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#5 - 2011-12-09 23:02:22 UTC
Emoclew wrote:
hmm ok i'll have a look. with a ship like that jumping it around i'd quite like a covops cloak.


Unfortunately, a Legion with a covops cloak is a Legion that hits like a bowl of jello. If you go Legion, fit the probing and cloaking subs for probing and travel, but carry a real offensive sub for any sort of combat site.

Oh, and the 6/10 really doesn't hit that hard if you can kite a bit. It's the 5/10 and minor annex that tend to kill you.
Emoclew
BAMF's
#6 - 2011-12-09 23:04:07 UTC
I have noticed the t2 amarr ships have very different resists to their t1 versions and this is bad for sites against laser boats.
the one problem with the drake is its dps, it can tank great as we all know especially with mwd kiting these particular pirates, but those damn heavy missiles aren't great for offence when the rat has any sort of tank i.e. complex bosses and things. On the up side i got a corpum A-type Energized adaptive nano membrane from an escalation in my drake today. so i'm starting to think i must be doing something right :)
1-Up Mushroom
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2011-12-10 03:28:20 UTC
Aye, I'd like to see T2 Amarr and Minmatar boats to switch their resists but doubt CCP will do it.

You'd probably want a BS or Loki to do these sites, maybe Sleipner
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Vachir Khan
Rugged Ruff and Ready
#8 - 2011-12-10 07:45:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Vachir Khan
T2/T3 resists are decided by their role-played adversaries. Amarr's enemy is Minmatar which "racial" damage is Explosive/kin so Amarr T2 ships get extra of that, Amarr being EM/therm means that Minnie T2 ships get extra EM/therm. For both Amarr as Minnie that means well rounded resists for Amarr armour tankers and Minnie shield tankers. Caldari and Gallente do both kin and thermal (albeit in different amounts) so they both get the same thing which works great if you do PVE against either type NPCs. So the resists aren't simply arbitrary but follow a certain logic, meaning that CCP won't change them just because.

Back to your question, a Legion could do just fine but bloods also use neuts which can become an issue on an active tanking laserboat, Amarr just isn't ideal to make that work. A regen tanked shield Loki or Sleipnir with artie and some drones would probably be best.
Headerman
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2011-12-10 08:18:20 UTC
[Loki, Blood Raider]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Dread Guristas Large Shield Booster
Gist B-Type Heat Dissipation Field
Gist B-Type Photon Scattering Field
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
Cap Recharger II

425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thunderbolt Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thunderbolt Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thunderbolt Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Thunderbolt Heavy Missile

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II

Loki Defensive - Adaptive Shielding
Loki Electronics - Tactical Targeting Network
Loki Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Loki Offensive - Hardpoint Efficiency Configuration
Loki Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst


Hammerhead II x4
Warrior II x4
Hornet EC-300 x4

780 DPS tank Vs Blood raiders, 1500 m/s, 675 total DPS. It is expensive, but it would easily do the job. You can swap in a cap regen matrix for 1 less gun/missile and one more mid slot for more tank or cap.

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Vachir Khan
Rugged Ruff and Ready
#10 - 2011-12-10 10:13:32 UTC
Or use something a lot cheaper like this :)

[Loki, Plexing Amarr]
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II

10MN Afterburner II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Photon Scattering Field II
Heat Dissipation Field II

650mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP M
650mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP M
650mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP M
650mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP M
650mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP M
650mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP M
Core Probe Launcher II, Core Scanner Probe I

Medium Core Defence Field Purger I
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I

Loki Defensive - Adaptive Shielding
Loki Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer
Loki Engineering - Power Core Multiplier
Loki Offensive - Projectile Scoping Array
Loki Propulsion - Intercalated Nanofibers


Hobgoblin II x5
Hornet EC-300 x5
The Djego
Hellequin Inc.
#11 - 2011-12-10 11:42:11 UTC  |  Edited by: The Djego
Aamrr wrote:
Unfortunately, T2 Amarrian ships get bonuses to their Explosive and Kinetic resists, which makes tanking these plexes difficult.


The Legion tanks the 6/10 blood plex just fine, what you need is DPS of a close range legion to get the bosses down, that can sport some rather serious tanks(you will probably need a still a 2. ship for extra dps to kill the last Officer w/o overloading, dps imps and maxed out skills). T2 Medium rep should be enough if you want to reduce the costs, Absolution is also a good alternative, even if it is lots of effort w/o 50km Optimal, since many ships orbit rather far out.

[Legion, New Setup 1]
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
True Sansha Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
True Sansha Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Corpum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer

Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner
Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range

Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M

Medium Ancillary Current Router II
Medium Energy Locus Coordinator II
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I

Legion Defensive - Nanobot Injector
Legion Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Legion Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Legion Offensive - Liquid Crystal Magnifiers
Legion Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst

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