Player Features and Ideas Discussion

You do know carriers are mainly logistics ships??
And you do know that the reason gallente has the most drone boats its cause drones are their preffered weapon system along with blasters?
Other races have very little if any need for drones and drones boats...its just not part of its lore and current function.
and just giving every race a drone boat would remove their uniqueness, and they would need a drone boat of every class (frig, cruiser,etc) to give new players linear advancement or wtv they call it

I not say how the new carrier use fighter/bomber..
new carrier use only normal drone (example hobgoblin/hammerhead/ogre/garde drone and these ew variant)
and you can fly matar/caldari/caldari drone ship in highsec and get new support ship in low sec where capital class carrier too expensive,

you say nestor.... you can buy capital class carrier the nestor price... lol

would still be the Gallente king of the drones, other race just get one drone ship

Amarr have the Dragoon, Arbitrator, Prophecy and Armageddon. They're only missing a frigate-size, which would be almost exactly like the Tristan anyway so there isn't much reason for it to exist.

I guess you missed the upcoming changes that should help with that.

Whats that got to do with the Kronos patch notes ?
And nothing you said invalidates what I said, and the other way around.. so we good ?

The one thing I like to mention is, that the cut on drone bandwidth and bay had nothing to do with server issues as was stated somewhere, so that doesn't really count, why there should not be a (a=1) 10 drone ship, the dps is up to balance (as I suggested once, damage could be -33% but hp bonus +50%). But Id rather want that on the RS, but that is another thing.

Don't need a sub cap carrier other then that 8).

Read some lore about the Caldari-Gallente war, then you'll see why only the Gallente got bonuses.

Amarr got the superior armor and has higher low slots while the Gallente get an additional mid slot.

Oh look it's this thread yet again.

Did we forget the days when Drone Interfacing gave +1 drone per level and drone ships also got +1 per level of their ship skill where Vexors and Dominixs could field 15 Medium / Heavy drones at a time. Remember the lag that **** used to cause, granted it was a while back and the servers have much improved since then but then again the player population was also much smaller. Plus increasing the amount of drone control AND giving them boosts would make for some pretty stupid damage output.

This idea has been suggested before on here. I've always liked the idea of it. Though it would be too OP in HS unless balanced right. Look at how much bitching and whining there is over the Ishtar.

I know, and again, this does nothing towards my arguments. F&B profit from general Drone skills sure, didn't deny that. I said you can go to F&B by avoiding some drone skills, like all the requirements for medium, heavy and sentry drones as well as all specializations, which means any faction has the same presets to get to them, independent of them being a drone faction or not. Support skills are independent from 'unlock' skills - you should knwo that.


This came up and if you read the patch ntoes, they addressed this by reducing the numbers which can be assigned. Now you can conclude it is an issue with drone numbers in general or as mentioned an issue with numbers assisted, but I take my hint from the changes made. And in regards to the cut of drones to the Guristas line it was mentioned that it had nothing to do with reducing drones in general to ease server load. And they introduced 3 new SoE drone boats, which also speaks against it being true.


No, no newer info... just different conclusions I guess.

Sub cap carriers are a no-go in my book the entire point is only carriers and Guardian Vexors can deploy more than 5 drones at a time.

Its sort of your reward for training for the better part of a year or two to fly them ( or in the GV's case for winning the AT ) And thats not even mentioning how carriers are largely utility ships not combat ships, outside of triage the tank is great sure and you can crank 2K DPS in a thanny with ease but in triage they become something else, the ship you spent all that time training for.

If you want mini-carriers fly a navy domi or normal domi you have plenty of drone space and Good DPS for a subcap, empire mini carriers would be a step in the wrong direction.