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Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings
#1 - 2011-12-09 04:54:17 UTC
Simply put - do drone ship bonuses to drone damage affect ECM drones in any way?
Thgil Goldcore
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2011-12-09 05:05:50 UTC
Kahega Amielden wrote:
Simply put - do drone ship bonuses to drone damage affect ECM drones in any way?


nope. drone bonuses to damage apply only to the damage. There isn't much you can do to add to drone ECM effectiveness, making them a little more random when they work. Still ,never a bad idea if you have the drone hold for em.

May I ask what ship your building?
Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings
#3 - 2011-12-09 05:11:10 UTC
0.0 exploration Ishtar.

[Ishtar, Plex Bettar]
Armor EM Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Armor EM Hardener II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Medium Armor Repairer II

Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
Analyzer I
Codebreaker I
Cap Recharger II

Salvager II
Core Probe Launcher I, Core Scanner Probe I
[empty high slot]
Civilian Gatling Railgun, Civilian Railgun Charge
[empty high slot]

Medium Sentry Damage Augmentor I
Medium Sentry Damage Augmentor I


Garde II x5
Ogre II x5
Hammerhead II x5
Hobgoblin II x5
Vespa EC-600 X5

A flight of 5 ECM vespas has a 60% jam chance per cycle (even without bonuses) against, say, a stiletto. It's my defense in case I encounter a wild red ceptor.

Was also thinking of dumping the hobs/hammerheads for valks/warriors, though I don't necessarily want to turn this into a fitting discussion thread - I only asked this question here because it was too basic to really fit in the other forum sections.
Zanzbar
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2011-12-09 17:13:54 UTC
"Civilian Gatling Railgun, Civilian Railgun Charge"

What?
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#5 - 2011-12-09 20:34:20 UTC

Ignoring the fit.... cause... yeah....

A fleet inty will easily outrun EC drones, especially EC-600's. The EC-600's will really only be useful in jamming off close range or slower ships. (Combat inties, AF's, most t1 frigates, and occasionally cruisers/BC's).

Generally speaking, warriors are the only drones that can catch a fleet inty, but they will rarely drive it off before backup arrives.

Your best defense is to not get caught, and hence I suggest fitting a cloak in one of those empty hi-slots you have!!!
Another excellent defense against tackling frigates is a Neut....

Something tells me your having a lot of fitting problems though..

I'll leave it at that.
Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings
#6 - 2011-12-09 21:07:20 UTC
Quote:
A fleet inty will easily outrun EC drones, especially EC-600's. The EC-600's will really only be useful in jamming off close range or slower ships. (Combat inties, AF's, most t1 frigates, and occasionally cruisers/BC's).


3600 m/s MWD speed and 9km optimal. Do they not start jamming until they get much closer or something?


Quote:
Your best defense is to not get caught, and hence I suggest fitting a cloak in one of those empty hi-slots you have!!!


Not enough CPU, though I kinda want to shoehorn one onto there.


Quote:
"Civilian Gatling Railgun, Civilian Railgun Charge"


To get aggro, so my drones don't explode.
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#7 - 2011-12-09 21:39:12 UTC
Kahega Amielden wrote:
Quote:
A fleet inty will easily outrun EC drones, especially EC-600's. The EC-600's will really only be useful in jamming off close range or slower ships. (Combat inties, AF's, most t1 frigates, and occasionally cruisers/BC's).


3600 m/s MWD speed and 9km optimal. Do they not start jamming until they get much closer or something?


A fleet inty travels at 4500-5500 m/s. And while you would think the 9km range would allow them to get a jam off... it wont!

You can try it if you like.... I'm willing to tackle you in a belt, and we'll see if you can break my tackle. Would 5 minutes be a fair amount of time before I call in backup?
Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings
#8 - 2011-12-09 21:40:07 UTC
Quote:
A fleet inty travels at 4500-5500 m/s. And while you would think the 9km range would allow them to get a jam off... it wont!


Drones are dumb, got it. How would light ECM drones work?

*Loads up a bunch of Warriors*
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#9 - 2011-12-09 22:32:17 UTC
You asked me, and didn't believe me. Tsk tsk.

Confirming EC-600s are medium drones and do not work well against anything that moves at 3000+ km/s. I believe the drones have trouble catching up to anything faster than that since they try to orbit it, not approach it, and they definitely do not burn in front of the target ship. The drones also may begin jamming when they are *outside* falloff, which could gimp them even further.

Also, remember that in order to be even close to catching an interceptor, the drones have to MWD constantly, and the sig radius bloon makes interceptor pilots really happy (hooray, shooting down drones!)

EC-300s might work better, but you're reducing your jamming power by a lot. I don't know if Warriors might not just be better at that point.

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)
Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings
#10 - 2011-12-09 22:41:33 UTC
Quote:
You asked me, and didn't believe me. Tsk tsk.


At which point I mentioned their 9km optimal and you said "Oh, wow. I don't know, then".