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Uppgrayyedd
Doomheim
#61 - 2014-08-21 03:43:48 UTC
Tengu Grib wrote:

Just from reading that one post, you already know more about Eve than most people who have been playing x5 longer than you. You'd probably beat me in a 1v1 (I'm awful). If you'd like to test that theory, hit me up with a mail in game. You could probably talk me into providing you a combat ship to fight me in. Who knows, maybe I can give you some tips you can use to turn the tables on your mentor.


Or maybe you should promote fair play instead of encoraging new players to be griefers and at the same time drive subscription rates into the ground.


Learn to eve.
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#62 - 2014-08-21 07:38:12 UTC
Uppgrayyedd wrote:
Tengu Grib wrote:

Just from reading that one post, you already know more about Eve than most people who have been playing x5 longer than you. You'd probably beat me in a 1v1 (I'm awful). If you'd like to test that theory, hit me up with a mail in game. You could probably talk me into providing you a combat ship to fight me in. Who knows, maybe I can give you some tips you can use to turn the tables on your mentor.


Or maybe you should promote fair play instead of encoraging new players to be griefers and at the same time drive subscription rates into the ground.


Learn to eve.

Or maybe you could realize that your "griefing" is what makes eve the game we love. I can't believe that people complain that gankers are the ones forcing their playstyle on others.

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Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#63 - 2014-08-21 13:40:14 UTC
Uppgrayyedd wrote:

Learn to eve.


I laughed out loud when I read " Learn to eve" after reading your post.

Obvious troll, ill give it a 6/10.

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Xanato Kaso
Frozen Flames
#64 - 2014-08-22 23:07:41 UTC
Update: The dickwad got tired of killing me so he podded me again, and stealth wardecced my corp using an alt and joining the corp after the wardec went live. He has since killed my corpmates that are completely incapable of defending themselves.
Valkin Mordirc
#65 - 2014-08-23 06:18:44 UTC
I fail to understand why you are so angry at Max, he is buying your ships for you. So you not even losing anything against him, he is basically paying you to have fun. He also teaching you how to PVP, how is that a problem? You are learning how to defend yourself.


The fact that he podded you is another lesson, don't trust anyone.


He is not harming you, he is teaching you how to play EVE. 
#DeleteTheWeak
Xanato Kaso
Frozen Flames
#66 - 2014-08-23 07:02:58 UTC
Valkin Mordirc wrote:
I fail to understand why you are so angry at Max, he is buying your ships for you. So you not even losing anything against him, he is basically paying you to have fun. He also teaching you how to PVP, how is that a problem? You are learning how to defend yourself.


The fact that he podded you is another lesson, don't trust anyone.


He is not harming you, he is teaching you how to play EVE.


He is harming me. He is harming my corp. He is making it so I can not do what I enjoy. I did not seek him, I was not out looking for him. He came to me. He wanted to pvp, I did not. But I agreed to fight him as long as he was paying for the ships and fittings and he didnt pod me. He went back on his agreement. He is now destroying my corp members. We are not capable of defending ourselves. I have not had enough time to build my corp to a point where we are self sufficient. I have lost members due to the wardecs. I have been unable to recruit because I recruit new players and it would be wrong to have them join us just to be camped by someone that gets off on ruining other players fun.

He did not teach me how to fit, he did not teach me how to pvp. I learned it myself. He explained nothing, he answered no questions. He repeatedly tried to get me to fight in my paladin, and I am certain if I did bring my paladin out he would have cheated our agreement to get the killmail, he probably would have logged in other alts and suicided or something. I have not been able to run a lvl 4 mission in 2 weeks now because I am afraid to undock in my Paladin.

Playing with him was not a big deal until he broke his agreement, it was enjoyable, until he started cheating in duels. I almost killed him a couple times. Instead of dieing like a man he would warp away, yet when I warp away I am considered a pussy.


I am angry because he is ruining my fun. I understand that is part of the game. But when one person sets out to ruin the fun of other people, for no other reason than because they can, I have a right to be angry. His fun is making others not have fun. And in this game he has the right to do that, but I do not have to like it.
Valkin Mordirc
#67 - 2014-08-23 07:13:16 UTC
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He is harming me. He is harming my corp. He is making it so I can not do what I enjoy. I did not seek him, I was not out looking for him. He came to me. He wanted to pvp, I did not. But I agreed to fight him as long as he was paying for the ships and fittings and he didnt pod me. He went back on his agreement. He is now destroying my corp members. We are not capable of defending ourselves. I have not had enough time to build my corp to a point where we are self sufficient. I have lost members due to the wardecs. I have been unable to recruit because I recruit new players and it would be wrong to have them join us just to be camped by someone that gets off on ruining other players fun.



Lesson 1: If you are unable to protect yourself, you are incapable of playing EVE. People will actively seek you **** you over. And will do anything to turn the tide in their favor. Learn to stop this.

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He did not teach me how to fit, he did not teach me how to pvp. I learned it myself. He explained nothing, he answered no questions. He repeatedly tried to get me to fight in my paladin, and I am certain if I did bring my paladin out he would have cheated our agreement to get the killmail, he probably would have logged in other alts and suicided or something. I have not been able to run a lvl 4 mission in 2 weeks now because I am afraid to undock in my Paladin.



See lesson 1, also letting people know in C&P you have a paladin was a grave mistake.


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Playing with him was not a big deal until he broke his agreement, it was enjoyable, until he started cheating in duels. I almost killed him a couple times. Instead of dieing like a man he would warp away, yet when I warp away I am considered a *****.


Lesson 2: If you actually fitted a point, this would not have been an issue. https://zkillboard.com/kill/40777489/ You should be activitly learn to PVP by reading guides and such. Doing this you would have avoided this mistake entirely. Also take note that he may be bait-tanking you, making you think you have him on the ropes so that you try to fight him again.

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I am angry because he is ruining my fun. I understand that is part of the game. But when one person sets out to ruin the fun of other people, for no other reason than because they can, I have a right to be angry. His fun is making others not have fun. And in this game he has the right to do that, but I do not have to like it.


Getting mad about not having fun in a game is pointless. You should focus that into stopping him. You have people actively hunting him yes? Setup log off traps in Amarr, your options are not limited as you may believe. 
#DeleteTheWeak
Tengu Grib
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#68 - 2014-08-23 14:37:25 UTC
If you ask nicely there are a few people here who might help you out, with advice, neutral reps, scouts, or even firepower. Fighting is fun, do some research, ask questions, look for ways to turn the tide in your favor.

Rabble Rabble Rabble

Praise James, Supreme Protector of High Sec.
Tengu Grib
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#69 - 2014-08-23 14:39:02 UTC
Uppgrayyedd wrote:
Tengu Grib wrote:

Just from reading that one post, you already know more about Eve than most people who have been playing x5 longer than you. You'd probably beat me in a 1v1 (I'm awful). If you'd like to test that theory, hit me up with a mail in game. You could probably talk me into providing you a combat ship to fight me in. Who knows, maybe I can give you some tips you can use to turn the tables on your mentor.


Or maybe you should promote fair play instead of encoraging new players to be griefers and at the same time drive subscription rates into the ground.


Learn to eve.

You really think encouraging criminal behaviour is lowering subscription rates? You are either joking, or you don't know how to Eve.

Rabble Rabble Rabble

Praise James, Supreme Protector of High Sec.
Milan Nantucket
Doomheim
#70 - 2014-08-26 03:30:12 UTC
Xanato Kaso wrote:
Leto Thule wrote:
Xanato Kaso wrote:
I am not going to explain how my lack of understanding of the mechanics of this game allowed this guy to kill me so you can laugh at me. Is someone willing to kill him yes or no? I can pay.


I wont kill him for you, but I will indeed help you learn how to kill him yourself.

C&P doesnt laugh at new guys. (I can see your character is older, did you purchase it?)

Most of the personalities who inhabit this subforum are happy to educate anyone who is willing to listen.

Ill be online later, if you would prefer a one on one convo, ill oblige.



I played a few years ago then I stopped and started playing again.



He wardecs my corp, and says if I duel him and give him a couple of good fights he will drop the war dec. (My corp only has newer players most barely off of their trials) He promised to pay me for my losses as he only needed kill mails for his corp for ranks or something. I agree as long as he agrees not to kill my pod. We go to amarr i fit the first ship. we fight. I have never pvped before and I as upfront about that and he told me how to fit my ship and gave me pointrs. He klls me and gives me isk for my frig. Then I go back and get the battlecruiser. We fight, i actually broke through his shield and halfway through his armor. He blows me up and I go back to the station. When I undock to go back to my wreck to loot he blows me up again and then pods me. How come he was able to blow me up again after the duel was over? He never repayed me for my battlecruiser either. And I lost all my implants and hardwirings. His las words to me are 'this makes a better killmail'



Edit: I was actually having fun during the fights and I told him that I wanted to fight him again in the future because I hadnt pvped and i like the adrenaline rush and wanted to do it again. And then he goes and does what he does and pods me.


I am a little confused. He wardecs your corp and you dueled him? When you say duel you did a duel invite and accept or you guys just duked it out at a station?

When you are war decced duel,inviting your target is pointless as you guys can always shoot at each other.

The only time concord would get involved is if you were not a suspect and no timers were running and NOT a war target. When a dec is dropped it takes effect 24 hours after the dec is dropped. I believe it says that in the mail you get.