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Sandrestal
Pakistani Taxi Drivers
#1 - 2014-08-19 16:32:36 UTC
I know a bunch of you are excited about doing burner missions. My question is how will you fit out your assault and/or faction fit to do these missions. For starters I will be using both arty and ac wolfs depending on what frig I'll be up against. Wolf has a good low end for tank and or damage mods. As I have 2 accts I'll be using wolfs with both of them. Not that familiar with the other Af's so will be curious to read what you will be using.
Airto TLA
Acorn's Wonder Bars
#2 - 2014-08-19 17:25:42 UTC
Sandrestal wrote:
I know a bunch of you are excited about doing burner missions. My question is how will you fit out your assault and/or faction fit to do these missions. For starters I will be using both arty and ac wolfs depending on what frig I'll be up against. Wolf has a good low end for tank and or damage mods. As I have 2 accts I'll be using wolfs with both of them. Not that familiar with the other Af's so will be curious to read what you will be using.


First we will need to see them, and figure out what to do. they will probably all have tactics that will make them easy, but if you follow the wrong path their stats will be truly OP.

If the bitching about the worm is valid it would seem to be the most likely choice.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#3 - 2014-08-19 17:45:19 UTC
Froggy Storm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#4 - 2014-08-19 22:12:35 UTC
The worm is going to be a likely choice. Once they hit sisi we will know more. Personally I'd like to see the balance somewhere between "der space pirate frig -to solo" and "a pair of T2 AFs". Ideally I would really love to see this new mission as a means to craft new group play missions and move away from the ideal that L4s are for solo blitzing.
Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#5 - 2014-08-19 22:57:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Zan Shiro
Airto TLA wrote:

If the bitching about the worm is valid it would seem to be the most likely choice.



the good, or bad news depending on outlook, is these aren't to me being op in AT so I see no nerf pending. Comps with worms aren't stomping peoples asses in matches as far as I have seen so it may not get that rather convenient rerebalance pass domi got right after a prior AT. I know some will say where is the tinfoil hat...it was just real coincidental on the timing of the domi rerebalance. I tend to not like coincidences, but have been wrong here before lol.
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#6 - 2014-08-20 04:12:25 UTC
Airto TLA wrote:
First we will need to see them, and figure out what to do. they will probably all have tactics that will make them easy, but if you follow the wrong path their stats will be truly OP.

If the bitching about the worm is valid it would seem to be the most likely choice.


Ha! I just looked at the worm in eft for the first time since the change... Probably be my go to for these missions.

Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
with a scramBlink


afaik a scram won't do anything.

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Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
#7 - 2014-08-20 10:28:20 UTC
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
Airto TLA wrote:
First we will need to see them, and figure out what to do. they will probably all have tactics that will make them easy, but if you follow the wrong path their stats will be truly OP.

If the bitching about the worm is valid it would seem to be the most likely choice.


Ha! I just looked at the worm in eft for the first time since the change... Probably be my go to for these missions.

Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
with a scramBlink


afaik a scram won't do anything.


The devs have stated the scram will work on the burner rats. As in, burner rats with MWD will have their microwarpdrive shut off if you can hit them with your scram.
Carniflex
StarHunt
Mordus Angels
#8 - 2014-08-21 08:02:44 UTC
I have my reservations about worm being "the thing". The drone hp bonus is nice on them, however, with the new rats having a beefed up sleeper AI they will, most likely, go after your drones the second you put them out and the lights do not have all that much hp even with the worm bonuses.

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Camper101
State War Academy
Caldari State
#9 - 2014-08-21 12:17:52 UTC
Carniflex wrote:
I have my reservations about worm being "the thing". The drone hp bonus is nice on them, however, with the new rats having a beefed up sleeper AI they will, most likely, go after your drones the second you put them out and the lights do not have all that much hp even with the worm bonuses.


then use navy drones and laugh like a maniac since they get ridiculous passive recharge (also smaller, orbits like a maniac, packs a punch).

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Hakaari Inkuran
State War Academy
Caldari State
#10 - 2014-08-21 14:18:48 UTC
Camper101 wrote:
Carniflex wrote:
I have my reservations about worm being "the thing". The drone hp bonus is nice on them, however, with the new rats having a beefed up sleeper AI they will, most likely, go after your drones the second you put them out and the lights do not have all that much hp even with the worm bonuses.


then use navy drones and laugh like a maniac since they get ridiculous passive recharge (also smaller, orbits like a maniac, packs a punch).

Think faction hobgoblins are good enough? They're armor tanked and not shield tanked, so faction hornets have the much better shield recharge in exchange for less DPS.
Antillie Sa'Kan
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2014-08-21 15:21:59 UTC
Personally I think that very mildly blinged AF with the appropriate T2 resist profile will probably be sufficient. So an Amarr AF for the Angel burner, a Minmatar AF for the Sansha burner, ect...
Doctor Knuckles
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2014-08-22 10:27:26 UTC
I'd probably go with an Hawk with specific resist profile, massive tankj, mwd sig reduction, no worrying about tracking, no worrying about drones being shot down, no worrying about tracking disruption if the rats will have any
Bastion Arzi
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2014-08-22 12:00:28 UTC
will t2 frigs be allowed in the burner missions?
Maeltstome
Ten Thousand Days
#14 - 2014-08-22 12:03:00 UTC
Daredevil or Catalyst.

DPS is, and always will be, the best way to deal with PVE.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#15 - 2014-08-22 12:58:36 UTC
Maeltstome wrote:
Daredevil or Catalyst.

DPS is, and always will be, the best way to deal with PVE.


Can't use Destroyers in burner missions.
Celthric Kanerian
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2014-08-23 13:55:23 UTC
I'm going to use a Retribution for Minmatar burner missions since it already got 80% resistance towards explosive I can fit more damage.
Rabe Raptor
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#17 - 2014-08-23 13:57:50 UTC
Carniflex wrote:
I have my reservations about worm being "the thing". The drone hp bonus is nice on them, however, with the new rats having a beefed up sleeper AI they will, most likely, go after your drones the second you put them out and the lights do not have all that much hp even with the worm bonuses.


Rotate your drones and quit wanting everything to be "turn on modules and wait for fight to end"

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NIFTYGetAtMe
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#18 - 2014-08-23 20:21:07 UTC
Officer fit Cambion.
Justin Cody
War Firm
#19 - 2014-08-24 02:55:32 UTC
Celthric Kanerian wrote:
I'm going to use a Retribution for Minmatar burner missions since it already got 80% resistance towards explosive I can fit more damage.


this guy's a thinker!
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#20 - 2014-08-24 23:58:35 UTC
t2 resists, and overwhelming DPS seem like winning strategies.

doing a sisi install now, can't wait to try these things!

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