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(updated) New Skill - Synergy Link
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Jessi Gray
Perkone
Caldari State
#21 - 2014-08-22 07:31:47 UTC
scrap the skill just make it be default and make it work the other way around

not having any frig to V give u a % bonu to training all racial frig skills but having at least 1 will take it back to what it is now.

that would help new players not harming older and would not be to strong cause it would only help u train to lvl IV and 1 to V
Amarisen Gream
The.Kin.of.Jupiter
#22 - 2014-08-22 08:24:42 UTC
Jessi Gray wrote:
scrap the skill just make it be default and make it work the other way around

not having any frig to V give u a % bonu to training all racial frig skills but having at least 1 will take it back to what it is now.

that would help new players not harming older and would not be to strong cause it would only help u train to lvl IV and 1 to V


Thank you for thoughtful feed back.

As a reply to the remark of it being mandatory- I must say no. If your focus was to have a toon in a specific hull and purpose than you'd never touch this skill. Even if you where going for pirate hulls you might not even touch this skill.
But I am all ears if you can figure out a game mechanic that helped new players more than mid-long term players.
I feel hat I am at least trying to provide ideas that can make improvements to the game as a whole. And yes, you all are giving reasons why it probably won't work, but your missing the other half and that is what would it need to make something like this balanced so it did work.
It is one of the reasons why I list a few limits on what it effected. Those limits could be made even harsher to balance it out.

If I could think of something that allowed new players and everyone else to be on a even playing field I would have suggested it. The only thing that comes to mind on that topic is that active mods would provide SP to their required skill.

Sorry for the rant. But please provide more than just a "it won't work." Or w/e most of the replies have been.
Because as it stands, something needs to be thought up and hashed out by the players that allows us to bring in a new generation of EVE players. EVE is harsh, and as it stands the longer you have played the better off you will always be compare to newer players.

"The Lord loosed upon them his fierce anger All of his fury and rage. He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels" - The Scriptures, Book II, Apocalypse 10:1

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Lugh Crow-Slave
#23 - 2014-08-22 11:22:52 UTC
so now new players have to train a new skill to save on training time making it even longer from the start before they can train usefull skills didn't we get rid of the attribute skills for just that reason

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
Lugh Crow-Slave
#24 - 2014-08-22 11:24:07 UTC
Jessi Gray wrote:
scrap the skill just make it be default and make it work the other way around

not having any frig to V give u a % bonu to training all racial frig skills but having at least 1 will take it back to what it is now.

that would help new players not harming older and would not be to strong cause it would only help u train to lvl IV and 1 to V



so as a vet making an alt i know to train all my frigs to IV before getting one to V but as a new player i get one to V and screw myself

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
Fer'isam K'ahn
SAS Veterinarians
#25 - 2014-08-22 12:10:24 UTC
Read the edit. It's still the same problem and still redundant. Check training skills and skill aquisition, should give you a hundret hits and more reasons why this is not a good idea.
Amarisen Gream
The.Kin.of.Jupiter
#26 - 2014-08-22 14:35:07 UTC
Fer'isam K'ahn wrote:
Read the edit. It's still the same problem and still redundant. Check training skills and skill aquisition, should give you a hundret hits and more reasons why this is not a good idea.



The training skills where before my time > and my understanding is they just baked them in to the game.

If this wasn't a skill to trained, as it has been said, it would be a nice thing to bake into the game. At least then it effects everyone the same.

It wouldn't effect those who know what their doing if they are specializing an alt or a first toon, if they know what they are doing.
But it would help players who may have started with one faction, and want to expand into another faction or weapon platform without taking months to adjust.

And thank you for your continued feedback throughout all the F&I.

"The Lord loosed upon them his fierce anger All of his fury and rage. He dispatched against them a band of Avenging Angels" - The Scriptures, Book II, Apocalypse 10:1

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Fer'isam K'ahn
SAS Veterinarians
#27 - 2014-08-22 14:50:00 UTC
Shockedsaw what you did there

You are not realizing that it does not matter, as with all the redundant skill discussions we had regarding new players or whatever. Everything perceived today as bad (insufficient SP), implemented tomorrow will look exactly for the new crowd as it looks now for the old crowd in a few weeks. Nothing changes for the mindset of the people, the only thing it does is dumbing down the game and giving early rewards to soon, too easy, challenges and commitment disappear etc etc .. the game becomes the casual washout all other games share ... it is detrimental and is only a short term perceived betterment. And that shoudl be all that needs to be said about it.

It is only a perceived problem - there is no real problem. Next Thread will be "Training for Titans is to brutal for beginners!" - Essentially or rather factual correct , but still a mentally re-turd-ed statement.

And I bet you still haven't checked out Malcanis' Law yet, at least you are not addressing it.
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