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F*ck double post

I blame net latency

The rewards (as well as the amount of time given before the bonus reward expires) are dynamic and what you're seeing on Sisi isn't really representative of what they'll be after enough people have run them (or declined them) on TQ to get a baseline going.

And don't worry, the Succubus and Worm are the two most kity ones, the rest come in closer.

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I hope you do. I'd rather be able to fly frigate missions than run a bunch of battleship missions for a chance at one or two frigate missions.

I can confirm that I've found a way to beat that one using a T2 ship and all T2/meta modules, with no expensive implants.

It's pretty much always a tricky fight for me though.

stupid double post

which fotm cheese setup is it copying exactly, I can't tell

my suggestion is that you add a separated line of harder frigate missions for expert players (lots of elite frigate, incursions-like ai etc) and slip the burner ones in -that- line of agents.
this way you can break the concept "bigger ships equal higher level" that a lot of missioners have and which make them react badly to the rest of eve (ok, i.
once the full frigate line is done you can move to cruiser, bc and bs.

The worm burner gets boosted disruptor range not scram range right? I'm curious if their signal bloom increases when they get MWD speeds? In which case a TP and barrage could be nice?

The Blood Raider one is probably the hardest right now. I think we're going to tone its active tank down a bit before release.


The Burners that fight at closer range (Angel, Blood, Serpentis, Sansha) do indeed use real scams.

Hi Fozzie, a few bits of feedback from a few runs I have done. My character has absolute perfect skills (Mastery 5) etc. No implant sets were used when attempting these.

First Mission, VS Dramiel Burner. Attempted Solo without links.

1) This was actually a lot more challenging than I expected, I first opted to try a Double web Vengeance with Rockets+nos and Rigor+t2 rate of fire rig, and tanky lows. I opted for a Vengeance because I thought that the high Explosive, Kinetic and EM resistances would be sufficient. I was able to permatank the NPC, however I was unable to break his tank at all, despite Rigor+dual web I was only applying about 40% of my Rocket DPS. I then let the NPC kill me, and reshipped.

2) I opted to switch for a Daredevil, Neutrons, Afterburner, web, injector + dual rep, damage control, Mag stab + Burst/Ancillary/Explosive armor rigs. This went much easier (although I had just entered structure at the end of the engagement).

Second Mission VS Succubus Burner. First Attempt without links, Second attempt was with Claymore boosted Interdiction Maneuvers only (to simulate a faction web). same Daredevil from above

1) I warped into the mission, then the burner kited me at 15km with both scram+web (as a side note: the 'scram' only has 1x strength disruption and on the UI it displays as a warp disruptor, even though it disables use of MWD, would it be possible to make this more clear in the UI prehaps? It does say it warp scrambles in the mission journal however). I got kited and died.

2) Round 2, I got an alt to give me the Claymore Interdiction Maneuvers link (only that link) to simulate a faction web on the Daredevil, this time it was winnable with heated AB+Web I was able to get on top of it, and I was able to beat the Succubus with 60% hull remaining.

Third Mission VS Guristas Worm (first 3 attempts solo without links, 4th attempt dual boxed)

1) Tried to kill it using Daredevil, but it killed me in just 5 volleys, the Worm is fast (3.7kms) and has a 40km~ Disruptor, I got on top of it and got it into a third of shield left before I died. It does a lot of volley damage. I think I could have won this fight if I had armor links.

2) Swapped to an Ishkur, was unable to get on it at all, far too slow. Died after a few minutes, on a side note, The behavior with drones is very weird, mid-way through the fight, the NPC started swapping to my drones, however this made him orbit the drones at 40km instead of me, and actually almost allowed me to get on top of him because he was attempting to range kite my drones and not me, I'm not sure if this would be at-all possible to change, but obviously the more effective and option players use would be to kite me while shooting my drones. He also took the disruptor off me and onto the drones.

3) Swapped to a Crusader, was able to get on it almost immediatly, but I died far too fast and it had a really decent tank.

4) I then decided to dual box this mission. Kitsune+Daredevil. The Guristas NPC was permajammed and was no problem, the worm is really resilent though, I think this burner is by far the hardest burner because it has a really beefy tank on top of being faster than all assault ships, while doing lots of effective DPS at range.

Fourth mission, VS Serpentis Daredevil (Attempted solo, no links)

1) Tried a Pulse fitted retribution without a prop module, and injector+dual rep, the NPC was under my tracking with Scorch and Focused Medium Pulse, on a side note, the NPC was actually killing its own tracking and got a lot of grazes/misses because of his tight orbit at range with railguns. Died to it after 2 minutes or so. was unable to break tank due to being unable to apply my DPS.

2) Tried my own Railgun DD, 150mm IIs, with injector + dual web, dual rep, dc, magstab. I got wrecked, although it was pretty close (it was almost in structure, I think I could have won this with armor links)