EVE General Discussion

Whether you paid RL money for the carrier is irrelevant.

The bottom line is that since CCP gives us a legal means for converting RL money into in game isk, then isk gains an inherent value. As such I can accurately say that your carrier has a RL value of $XX. The carrier has that value IF you decided to plunk down RL money to gain the isk to purchase it.

Whether or not you chose to buy the carrier via that means has no bearing on its potential value due to the RL $$ to plex to isk conversion.

Of course it does not have any value in the reverse, as there is no legal means to convert it back into RL $$$. But it does not mean someone can truthfully state what it's value is in terms of the PLEX to RL $$ conversion rate.

I thought WoW uses some "soundbound" mechanic or whatever it was.

So your officer sword can't be dropped. Unlike with officer-fitted ravens in highsec

Depends entirely on the laws of the place. Where I live, If I work to achieve or get anything, be it virtual or real, its my property as long as I did not took it from the rights of another person or legal entity.

The concept is simple.. if the court decides that the strong part (the company) deceived or manipulated the weaker part.. legal actions can be enforced to reverse it.

If I sell some of my isk to a person for real life money, then that isk has real money value.

I respect what you are saying but it is not fully true, I will try my best to explain why.

You mentioned all value is virtual, regardless of whether it is affixed to a physical dollar, or virtual ISK. Well, that is not really true. For example, depending on what country you are from, there are government departments that make lists through the use of statistics etc, let's use as an example the car industry, or rather, the used car industry. Each used car, has a value. It is yours, but each year, and with more mileages or KMs, the car loses value. Now, there is a reference value for your car that potential people that buy use cars, can orientate themselves with. Car insurance companies for example consult these type of value tables the most. So that is not true that all value is virtual, there are clear values to particular items BUT, one can say that something is always worth what somebody is willing to pay for it, so such a person for example could say the same as you as an excuse to buy the car for 3x more or less of a price.

Now, you mention Eve takes time, which is more real than assessed value of money. Again, are you playing eve to earn money to live? I play it out of my free will and I do not lose one cent of RL money. I also yet need to find a general rule book, where it states that every single thing I do during the day that is not considered earning money, is considered a loss.

So you are telling me, the time you sleep, etc, you are actually making a loss, that your sleep time is equivalent to real life money (whatever you consider your value per working hour is?)

Look, great answers from most people so far, and I am sure that many will be hooked and holding to all they got in terms of believing that PLEX has a real monetary value, but I am still trying to find more compelling evidence to if that is really true. Lot's of the things mentioned here I guess would make sense to people that see every minute they spend of the day, that it is a loss of money when it is not working related.

Now, if let's say CCP would allow that, then I am more likely to believe that ISK has a real life monetary value which will then be decided by the simple rules of supply and demand.

And because something is illegal/forbidden it has no value?

With that logic, drugs have no real life value, because it is forbidden selling them...

And yet, somehow, drug dealers manage to buy all kinds of nice things...

Go figure.

You ruined your portrait.

If you wanna keep this,
at least find lighting that makes it look less ******.

Thanks.

People believe ISK has a real life value because it makes this game more interesting... which it desperately needs.

Yes it does, because that time could otherwise be spent making money, producing, selling... instead of spending money you previously acquired or stagnating (ie. sitting on your couch sleeping..) Time is a net gain or a net loss, monetarily speaking, depending on how you use it. Just because you do not value your time in that fashion does not negate that it has value.