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CCP Response Regarding SOMER Blink Concerns

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#361 - 2014-08-21 01:46:47 UTC
Ohkewl wrote:
Also rather funny to see all the hate here towards Somer from all the guys that paid $10 to get into a corp with a 120% SRP program.

I paid nothing and my corp has essentially the same program. Jelly?

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Ohkewl
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#362 - 2014-08-21 01:47:40 UTC
Hendrick Tallardar wrote:
Brahan Seer wrote:
Considering its goons online probably nothing and already did report it thanks


OK, so you're gonna ***** and moan while making accusations without actually doing anything about it. Sounds like a good use of your time.

Ohkewl wrote:
If CCP have proven anything yet, it's that you can get away with anything, as long as you have a large enough mob behind you.


OK, so you're also making excuses for not doing anything. Gotcha, well I hear World of Warcraft is getting an expansion in a couple of weeks you could try that. Or maybe Star Citizen, I hear that's a good game.


1 last question, why didnt you ask anyone for proof in the previous thread where all the post were made screaming for Somer's head without any proof?
All sorts of accusations were made, no proof was needed.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#363 - 2014-08-21 01:48:57 UTC
Andski wrote:
Ohkewl wrote:
I'm only wrong when none of the hatespewing goons have a SA account. That some of them dont, is irrelevent.


goonwaffe wasn't designed around having people join SA in order to join goonwaffe

there's also zero affiliation between goonwaffe and SA beyond the fact that its core membership are SA members

something awful is a forum with 180,000+ members and goonwaffe is a corp with 4,000 characters, half of which are alts and maybe a quarter of which actually joined from SA


180,000+ members? At $10 a pop?

Good Christ in heaven! Why wasn't it me that thought up that site?

Mr Epeen Cool
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#364 - 2014-08-21 01:51:48 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
180,000+ members? At $10 a pop?

Good Christ in heaven! Why wasn't it me that thought up that site?
You're forgetting unban/double account payments, platinum upgrades, avatar upgrades, avatar defacements, archive upgrades, ad-free upgrades… Blink
Arkady Romanov
Whole Squid
#365 - 2014-08-21 01:51:52 UTC
Sion Kumitomo wrote:
Oh those wacky goons, is there no conspiracy theory they aren't perfect for?


Don't act like you don't like it. Lol

James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Ohkewl wrote:
Also rather funny to see all the hate here towards Somer from all the guys that paid $10 to get into a corp with a 120% SRP program.

I paid nothing and my corp has essentially the same program. Jelly?


Do you also get to enjoy the sensation of being reviled on a cellular level for your corp tags? I do.

Whole Squid: Get Inked.
Cameron Freerunner
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#366 - 2014-08-21 01:54:53 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Mr Epeen wrote:
180,000+ members? At $10 a pop?

Good Christ in heaven! Why wasn't it me that thought up that site?
You're forgetting unban/double account payments, platinum upgrades, avatar upgrades, avatar defacements, archive upgrades, ad-free upgrades… Blink

Gooooon!
HarlyQ
harlyq syrokos investment station
#367 - 2014-08-21 02:01:26 UTC
Cameron Freerunner wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Mr Epeen wrote:
180,000+ members? At $10 a pop?

Good Christ in heaven! Why wasn't it me that thought up that site?
You're forgetting unban/double account payments, platinum upgrades, avatar upgrades, avatar defacements, archive upgrades, ad-free upgrades… Blink

Gooooon!

I like this man he gets us at our true core.
Slicr
#368 - 2014-08-21 02:02:02 UTC
Mike Azariah wrote:
Told ya

don't hurt yourself patting yourself on the back. Nice way to start a post - get on everybody's good side lol.

Mike Azariah wrote:
Not being swept under the rug, not being waited out in hopes that it goes away.

Hopefully this is a new tactic and not a once in a lifetime

Mike Azariah wrote:
Of course into each life some Rain will fall and nobody is totally good or totally evil. We lost a player today. One who was admired for his genius and innovation in making a HUGE pile of isk.

Not to mention what he has done for CCP

Quote:
What you can take away from this.

1) Nobody in Eve is too big to fail
2) There be a new sheriff in town
3) Publishing communications with CCP is a dangerous step
5) Mike like to mess with OCD folks
6) When one witch is burnt people start looking around for something else to light
7) The polite folks got a lot more answers from Falcon than the screamers (unless you LIKE being called 50 shades of dumb)

m

1. Do not believe that comment
2.Too funny to comment
3. According to the rules, bannable
4. I agree 100% with this
5. Think we will chalk this comment up to an attempt at humour.
6. Another attempt at humour - I know I do not buy the story that he acted alone.
7. Hmm trying to think of another word for "polite" wait I think I can ... nope

I believe in being Pro-Active as Opposed to Reactive. Reactive tends to be more costly in time and money.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#369 - 2014-08-21 02:05:49 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Mr Epeen wrote:
180,000+ members? At $10 a pop?

Good Christ in heaven! Why wasn't it me that thought up that site?
You're forgetting unban/double account payments, platinum upgrades, avatar upgrades, avatar defacements, archive upgrades, ad-free upgrades… Blink


Also parachute accounts, parachutes for your parachute accounts, plat for those accounts, and so on

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Hendrick Tallardar
Doomheim
#370 - 2014-08-21 02:07:41 UTC
Ohkewl wrote:
Hendrick Tallardar wrote:
Brahan Seer wrote:
Considering its goons online probably nothing and already did report it thanks


OK, so you're gonna ***** and moan while making accusations without actually doing anything about it. Sounds like a good use of your time.

Ohkewl wrote:
If CCP have proven anything yet, it's that you can get away with anything, as long as you have a large enough mob behind you.


OK, so you're also making excuses for not doing anything. Gotcha, well I hear World of Warcraft is getting an expansion in a couple of weeks you could try that. Or maybe Star Citizen, I hear that's a good game.


1 last question, why didnt you ask anyone for proof in the previous thread where all the post were made screaming for Somer's head without any proof?
All sorts of accusations were made, no proof was needed.


Because by the time I entered that thread, Somer had posted his correspondence with CCP's VP of Global Sales and his Affiliate proposal. I'm sorry you missed that part of the facts.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#371 - 2014-08-21 02:10:13 UTC
Andski wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Mr Epeen wrote:
180,000+ members? At $10 a pop?

Good Christ in heaven! Why wasn't it me that thought up that site?
You're forgetting unban/double account payments, platinum upgrades, avatar upgrades, avatar defacements, archive upgrades, ad-free upgrades… Blink

Also parachute accounts, parachutes for your parachute accounts, plat for those accounts, and so on

In short, 💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰…
Geenemen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#372 - 2014-08-21 02:12:46 UTC
Ohkewl wrote:

I'm only wrong when none of the hatespewing goons have a SA account. That some of them dont, is irrelevent.


Please stop talking.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#373 - 2014-08-21 02:20:50 UTC
e: agh! forums!
Slicr
#374 - 2014-08-21 02:23:38 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
Frantico wrote:
"We do not remove ISK or assets from banned accounts to re-distribute them into the game, regardless of their rarity or value."

well actualy you do you did it with Plexes, So there is presidence for this action beeing taken

*edited*
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=336609

feels dumb i have tell ccp what ccp has done but sure


I don't really count ISK and Assets (meaning incredibly rare ships that are potentially worth hundreds of billions of ISK) as even remotely the same as a stack of PLEX.





Can you please explain more by what you mean by this comparison?

Plex can be bought with in-game isk or out of game real money. If Plex is bought in-game, then it has been paid for down the line with real money at some point.
All in game items (rare ships for example) can be bought with isk, Plex, and/or other in-game items or any combination of the 3 methods. Another method of course is free.

So in essence, real money has the ability to purchase anything in the game.

I believe in being Pro-Active as Opposed to Reactive. Reactive tends to be more costly in time and money.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#375 - 2014-08-21 02:24:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Andski
joining a russian alliance requires that you speak russian

learning to speak russian costs money

i bet the russian alliances get a kickback from russian language instructors and rosetta stone, i know i'll find the evidence to out their little RMT scheme and if i don't i'll just insist that this is the case

this is brahan seer's impeccable chain of thought

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
HarlyQ
harlyq syrokos investment station
#376 - 2014-08-21 02:27:11 UTC
Andski wrote:
joining a russian alliance requires that you speak russian

learning to speak russian costs money

i bet the russian alliances get a kickback from russian language instructors and rosetta stone, i know i'll find the evidence to out their little RMT scheme

this is brahan seer's impeccable chain of thought

I see what he is getting at now HOW could i have missed this train of thought AHHHHHH.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#377 - 2014-08-21 02:31:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Slicr wrote:
Can you please explain more by what you mean by this comparison?
He means that a call option for 30 days of subscription time (which is what a PLEX actually is), paid for using real cash, is a different kettle of fish compared to in-game assets such as ISK and ships. One shows up in the accountants' spread sheets as liabilities, so there's a good reason to get those off the books — if it also happens to moderate a particularly crazy part of the in-game economy, then that's a neat side-effect.

Quote:
Plex can be bought with in-game isk or out of game real money. If Plex is bought in-game, then it has been paid for down the line with real money at some point.
All in game items (rare ships for example) can be bought with isk, Plex, and/or other in-game items or any combination of the 3 methods. Another method of course is free.

So in essence, real money has the ability to purchase anything in the game.
No. In essence, real money has the ability to purchase a PLEX, period (well, unless you want to break the EULA and get banned, that is), and you can only do that trade with CCP.

If you have a PLEX, you can trade it against other in-game assets, most notably ISK. But you can't skip that crucial step without risking your account — going directly from cash to any other in-game assets (or going from cash to PLEX without going through CCP) is strictly prohibited.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#378 - 2014-08-21 02:32:47 UTC
Arkady Romanov wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Ohkewl wrote:
Also rather funny to see all the hate here towards Somer from all the guys that paid $10 to get into a corp with a 120% SRP program.

I paid nothing and my corp has essentially the same program. Jelly?


Do you also get to enjoy the sensation of being reviled on a cellular level for your corp tags? I do.

I did get a message from someone in Northern Associates who was upset that my corp allows non-Serbians.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Hawkr Trimodian
E.O.O-S Legatus T.I.M.E. Holdings
#379 - 2014-08-21 02:40:15 UTC
So, Just thought I would jump in with my two cents.

I would bet that most of the assets held by Somer Blink (rare ships, tech II BPO's and such) are held by the corp. Somer is Banned not the corp, so Andrev Nox has now become one of the richest people in Eve. I would bet that he has access to all Somer assets.

Kinda think the entire Somer leadership should have experienced the same ban as the founder, this was not the action of a single person but a small group of a couple people who ran the Somer show.

The second thing......Now we know why the Volcanoe in Iceland erupted this week Big smile
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#380 - 2014-08-21 02:43:47 UTC
Hawkr Trimodian wrote:
So, Just thought I would jump in with my two cents.

I would bet that most of the assets held by Somer Blink (rare ships, tech II BPO's and such) are held by the corp. Somer is Banned not the corp, so Andrev Nox has now become one of the richest people in Eve. I would bet that he has access to all Somer assets.

Kinda think the entire Somer leadership should have experienced the same ban as the founder, this was not the action of a single person but a small group of a couple people who ran the Somer show.

The second thing......Now we know why the Volcanoe in Iceland erupted this week Big smile


yeah i don't doubt that his second in command was just as involved in this arrangement as somer himself

whatever, give them enough rope

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar