EVE General Discussion

Which if Somer was involved in RMTing "by the book" should ostensibly mean confiscating or locking of all those assets (obviously actually tracking them, etc. is another matter), otherwise if its just for the publishing of internal memos and other sideline EULA breaches, which have mostly come about due to marginalisation even if Somer was in the wrong, this has taken a step in a very dubious direction.

EDIT: This is assuming that the correspondence Somer published isn't faked and the proposal is word for word as submitted to CCP.

CCP Falcon, is there any chance this might inspire a clearer definition of the third party rules and guidelines going forward? As it stands it seems that they are spread all over the place in articles, blogs, and years of forum posts. A big incident like this one can be kind of intimidating for first-time developers when the rules aren't exactly clearly laid out, especially when the result is a ban and the exact cause of the ban is unknown.

This makes no sence at all.
CCP has done this before and taken this action Except now its about Eve history and ships that have been around since the begining and not a small amount of them.
These are worth more to people because they are a part of our game. instead of a stack of plexes.
what makes me think you dont actualy play the game you work for is that you dont understand the importance of history in this game and what people feel about it. i will never be ablet o afford these ships in question but i like the idea there are these rare 1 of a kind ships out there that people have and not that all of them are sitting on banned accounts.

But if you can humor me to explain why a part of eve history is less important than a stack of plexes

Hint: one of them also exists in the real world.

So were the plexes they returned and gave out as prizes :) thats my point

I would like to see an in space, flight museum added where we can go to view these ships. Place a beacon in amarr or something and put a model of each rare ship out there.

Better yet, place a model of each ship ever made by each faction in the appropriate empire region. (include the pirate faction ones that relate to the empire ones in that area).

Better yet, CCP should auction them off next time there's a PLEX4Good.

I think that's called sisi or Google images

I am late to this particular thread but I wanted to say that I think CCP's (in particular, Falcon and Leeloo's) response to this situation has been exemplary. They have communicated with the community throughout, they have constantly coordinated with CSM9 and the final outcome was entirely justified. There was one particular part of the final statement posted in the OP of this thread I disagreed with though:


(emphasis mine)

Whilst I believe Somer utilised some pretty vague and tricksy wording in his original proposal and clearly carried out a final execution of the proposal that was very different to that submitted, it is clear that a submitted proposal was given authorisation by a member of CCP. Whether that person had jurisdiction to sign off on it or not isn't down to Somer but the individual themselves.

To be clear, I believe the final judgement made by CCP in regards to Somer was entirely fair but I also believe that that key point in Falcon's OP is incorrect. That shouldn't take away from their superb handling of this situation overall and I hope this is a benchmark and template should a similar situation arise in the future.

I wanted to bring this up because I have been utterly impressed by Falcon and Leeloo's handling of this situation but this one particular point doesn't ring true for me and having seen others point out the fact on this thread, I felt it important that you heard what this particular CSM representative was thinking. A CSM where all 14 individuals think the same thing all of the time is ultimately pointless after all.

That's really where Somer went wrong. Never allow **** to flow uphill when you're anywhere near the top.