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Well hello Mr. baltec1, any relation to baltec fleet?

I've taken college courses on the Ancient Near-East, kid. You don't know what the hell you are talking about. When did I say anything about religion? Evera heard of the Islamic Golden age? Educate yourself before you embarrass yourself further. I know this is the EVE forums but at least TRY to support whatever you learned from Fox news before you try to correct people.

Took me 2 seconds to find this on google. Get Rekt.

"Middle-East During the Middle Ages (5th – 15th Century)

The European Middle Ages was also known in history as the “Islamic Golden Age” . During this period much of the world’s scientific progress came from Muslim countries while Europe was still in the “Dark Ages”. Advancements in medicine, astronomy, philosophy, poetry, mathematics were made during this time. These advancements were not only made by Muslims, but Jews as well. Jewish scientists were allowed to practice their religion, and were able to contribute to scientific advancements.

Non-Muslims had very prominent positions in this era. One example is The Islamic Sultan Saladin had many personal physicians that were Christians, and Jews. The most famous of Saladin’s Jewish physicians was Maimonides, who was also one of the greatest Jewish scholars. In the middle-ages Muslims, Christians, and Jews not only lived in peace, but also were trusted colleagues in scientific progress."

http://kookyplanet.wordpress.com/2011/08/01/moments-in-history-that-jews-and-arabs-lived-in-peace/


Truth be told, whenever I heard someone say the words "cultural incompatibility", I immediately think "racist!".

There is only one prominent "holy book" that contains the view that all outsiders are similar to cattle and that its ok to ****, steal and murder them, and its not the Quran. Islamophobic propaganda is strong and the sheep are many.

Wow! Some threads derail.....This one had a meltdown!

The natural evolution, or de-evolution if one chooses, of conversation. Rarely is one topic ever unilateral in cause and correlation.

Have you ever read Quran? The rise of the Islamic fundamentalism in India? Massacres of Jews in the past? You know nothing because you were informed badly. If you would be informed correctly, and I don't mean zionist propaganda, you would know what does it mean to wage Jihad to the world. Jihad is the religuous duty of every Muslim. You can see what Jihad means when you turn your eyes to the Iraq, don't close it, you have seen the cutting of the head of the american reporter? And if you try to say to me, that peacefull coexistence means that massacre or pogrom is the choosing of the massacred Jews or other thinking person, that were not willing to convert, then I will say to you, better convert to Islam now, before they will come to you, at least you will have what you deserved.

This is always the nicest fail, when people quote the Quran and say the Bible is all hippie love..... Here's similar passages from the bible:

"And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God..." (Deuteronomy 13: 5)

"If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;" (Deuteronomy 13: 6)

"Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people." (Deuteronomy 13:8-9)

"Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword." (Deuteronomy 13:15)

And of course Babylon, full of unbelievers had to go:

"Every one that is found shall be thrust through; and every one that is joined unto them shall fall by the sword. Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished." (Isaiah 13:15-16)

And here's god commanding the murder of unbelieving inncoents, women and children:

"And to the others he said in mine hearing, Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity: Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and woman: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house." (Ezekiel 9:5-6)

And of course, if you vote for the Bible, you'll get the best footbaths:

"The righteous shall rejoice when he sees the vengeance. He shall wash his feet in the blood of the wicked." (Psalms 58:10)

Here's god commanding Moses to make his own ISIS type snuff movies:

"And Israel joined himself unto Baalpeor: and the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel. And the LORD said unto Moses, 'Take all the heads of the people and hang them up before the LORD against the sun, that the fierce anger of the LORD may be turned away from Israel.'" (Numbers 25:3-4)

Now, having established that the Quran is no Worse or better than the bible..... let's get back on topic. Religious contention is not really where it's at. Religiosity is dwindling, globally. There is a vocal minority of peolpe who stand at gay funerals with signs about god wanting this.... and of course there are whackjobs who think they're going to create a new caliphate. Globally though, people are turning away from flying spaghetti monsters.

Oh, demographically untrue. The leisure of rabid anti theism is dying, like any first world, trendy conceit of young people with too much free time.

It's death cries are just getting louder, that's all.

Actually the issues between the Israelis and the Palestinians are heavily due to the massive zionist movement in the early to mid 1900's and the fall of the Ottoman Empire. This book, Lawrence and Aaronsohn: T. E. Lawrence, Aaron Aaronsohn, and the Seeds of the Arab-Israeli Conflict, is quite informative on the billows that started the fire that continues to rage in the Middle East.

Not one of the Abrahamic religious texts, which were all written by those with the means and motivation to subdue the non educated masses, is without numerous violent passages. Unfortunately the extremists of all of those religions pervert those words into action while the rest of the followers interpret the 1000 times more prevalent passages of peace and understanding into mild to non action.

In addition to the above, try The Arabs, a History by Eugene Rogan. Highly readable, extremely well researched. Covers the fall of the Ottoman empire until now.

Sleevenote:

Eugene Rogan has written an authoritative new history of the Arabs in the modern world. Starting with the Ottoman conquests in the sixteenth century, this landmark book follows the story of the Arabs through the era of European imperialism and the Superpower rivalries of the Cold War, to the present age of unipolar American power. Drawing on the writings and eyewitness accounts of those who lived through the tumultuous years of Arab history, The Arabs balances different voices - politicians, intellectuals, students, men and women, poets and novelists, famous, infamous and the completely unknown - to give a rich, complex sense of life over nearly five centuries.

Rogan's book is remarkable for its geographical sweep, covering the Arab world from North Africa through the Arabian Peninsula, and for the depth in which it explores every facet of modern Arab history. Charting the evolution of Arab identity from Ottomanism to Arabism to Islamism, it covers themes including the conflict between national independence and foreign domination, the Arab-Israeli struggle and the peace process, Abdel Nasser and the rise of Arab Nationalism, the political and economic power of oil and the conflict between secular and Islamic values.

This multilayered, fascinating and definitive work is the essential guide to understanding the history of the modern Arab world - and its future.

Be careful what you believe. Rogan is one of the surnames used by the elite who own this world. Looking at his associations, particularly the Saudis, and his credentials, I would say it is extremely likely that Eugene Rogan is one of the agents of the NWO.

The winners of wars are always trying to rewrite history to make the other guy look like the bad guy. Look how often people condemn everything bad as "Nazi" when practically none has ever heard one speak.

Edit: Even the word "NA ZI" has been made into a bad word, apparently.

Right now they want people to believe that the Palistinians aren't a real people and that somehow, a few disgustingly wealthy Zionists, backed by the US government and Britain, have a mysterious right to come in and pushed people off their lands because at one point in history, thousands of years ago, jews lived there once.

Sadly, this gross injustice seems to be mostly ignored by the sheeple, despite Israels careless and deliberate killing off innocent childen, they continue to regurgitate Islamophobe propaganda and victim blame the Palestinians. The television has trained them well.


I'm not about to get into a debate when a bunch of sheeple kneejerk-screaming "TINFOIL!", so lets just leave it at that.