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Dev blog: Sharing is caring - Overview improvements with Hyperion

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Kismeteer
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#21 - 2014-08-20 17:21:07 UTC
Excellent job with this, I can't wait till we finally have the ability to tell large fleets 'Shoot a-z on this' easily.
Darkblad
Doomheim
#22 - 2014-08-20 17:22:43 UTC
Altrue wrote:
Darkblad wrote:
Lyron-Baktos wrote:
So if we have 20 presets in our overview, it will only pull the 5 that are in use?
Right, but you might "simply" create four shared settings. Each one of them has the same global settings, but different tab presets (profiles).


Oh eeeh... I guess that works but its kind of suboptimal for those of us who use a "Various" tab that relies on loading different setups on the fly.
Imported tab presets remain (you might end with hundreds of them over time), so you can also create settings afterwards, where the Various tab shows the desired tab preset.
The proposed four settings are just for the transfer of the tab presets from one client to another when export/import is a too complicated option.

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Sal Landry
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#23 - 2014-08-20 17:25:06 UTC
Is there any reason that the overview has to still be limited to 5 tabs?

Because more tabs would be an awesome cherry on top for this.
Laendra
Universalis Imperium
Goonswarm Federation
#24 - 2014-08-20 17:26:46 UTC
Omg, please stop with the YAML ****. It's the shittiest possible way to store data.
Darkblad
Doomheim
#25 - 2014-08-20 17:51:29 UTC
Darkblad wrote:
One question: Colortag/Background order isn't shared, but their (custom) color settings and active state are?
Looks like they do. At least that's what the yaml file with exported settings suggest.

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Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#26 - 2014-08-20 18:06:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Salpun
Arolix wrote:
As a side project for overview.

How about a decent overview setup for newbros by default? 5 tabs, colour coded names, appearance tab ordered properly, proper column selection. Either by making this the default overview, or a permanent saved overview.

I have always liked the option of players getting a overview setting, full or just the tab at the end or the beginning of each career agent arc.

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Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#27 - 2014-08-20 18:22:52 UTC
CCP Goliath wrote:
CCP karkur wrote:
only second Sad, let's pretend I was the first though!
Show people you care by sharing!

Also: questions, comments?


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Jeremiah Saken
The Fall of Leviathan
#28 - 2014-08-20 18:25:26 UTC
I spent 30 min setting my overview when i was in e-uni. It would take few click nowBig smile sharing and giving and receving as Joe saidBlink

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Wormerling
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2014-08-20 18:36:56 UTC
Would be nice to be able to use custom (different from active) overview for directonal scan.
Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#30 - 2014-08-20 18:37:32 UTC
I tried this in the last mass test and it looks good, except for one issue.

Consider: I load in player#1's settings and they are bad
So I try player#2's settings, and they are also bad.
Might as well restore my settings, so I hit "restore"....and get player#1's settings.
No problem, I'll just use the history....but my original settings are not in the history! Only the settings Ive loaded in!

And now, I'm lost. I have to rebuild my overview from scratch, even though the new system was supposed to make that unnecessary.

Suggestion: If my history is empty, then my current overview settings are automatically saved there as the first entry.

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#31 - 2014-08-20 18:43:57 UTC
I for one have not read the devblog but am thoroughly outraged regardless!

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Niko Lorenzio
United Eve Directorate
#32 - 2014-08-20 18:48:47 UTC
Awesome Stuff! Thank you everyone for making this possible.

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CCP karkur
C C P
C C P Alliance
#33 - 2014-08-20 19:37:16 UTC
Darkblad wrote:
Darkblad wrote:
One question: Colortag/Background order isn't shared, but their (custom) color settings and active state are?
Looks like they do. At least that's what the yaml file with exported settings suggest.
order should also be shared... if not, that's just a bug.

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Vic Vorlon
Malevelon Roe Industries
Convocation of Empyreans
#34 - 2014-08-20 19:48:10 UTC
Vincent Athena wrote:
I tried this in the last mass test and it looks good, except for one issue.

Consider: I load in player#1's settings and they are bad
So I try player#2's settings, and they are also bad.
Might as well restore my settings, so I hit "restore"....and get player#1's settings.
No problem, I'll just use the history....but my original settings are not in the history! Only the settings Ive loaded in!

And now, I'm lost. I have to rebuild my overview from scratch, even though the new system was supposed to make that unnecessary.

Suggestion: If my history is empty, then my current overview settings are automatically saved there as the first entry.


This strikes me as a very bad oversight on CCP's part. They build the feature but don't consider actual, real-world usage as you've described. I 100% agree that the system should automatically save your current settings as your first profile.

A reply of "but you can just export them first!" doesn't help. The GUI should protect you against negative consequences of an action that you DIDN'T know, and weren't told, could HAVE negative consequences. It's a simple fix, in this case. Please CCP, implement this suggestion.
Cheradenine Harper
The Grey Area
#35 - 2014-08-20 19:48:53 UTC
Quote:
Omg, please stop with the YAML ****. It's the shittiest possible way to store data.


No. XML is. Wordy, irritating, and a resource hog to process.

Any chance of getting a look at the YAML? Pretty please?

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Viyaja
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#36 - 2014-08-20 19:52:05 UTC
Is it possible to have a beter way to Manage your Overview Presets? ATM its quite crappy to set up Presets due to the bad saving mechanisem. It woud begrate to have a Dropdown menue with all the saved Overview Presets in the Overview Settings window
Riela Tanal
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#37 - 2014-08-20 19:55:43 UTC
Is it possible to get an option to hide unpiloted ships from your overview/probe scan could help with WH posses if people leave a bunch of ships in their pos and causing issues with Dscan and probing.
Maraner
The Executioners
#38 - 2014-08-20 20:12:17 UTC
Nice change.
Azarion Sinak
678 lost souls
#39 - 2014-08-20 20:47:33 UTC
Cheradenine Harper wrote:
Quote:
Omg, please stop with the YAML ****. It's the shittiest possible way to store data.


No. XML is. Wordy, irritating, and a resource hog to process.

Any chance of getting a look at the YAML? Pretty please?


Actually, no, Yaml is far worse. If you absolutely needed to get away form strict XML, then use XAML, at least its more of a standard than YAML is.
Cheradenine Harper
The Grey Area
#40 - 2014-08-20 20:56:55 UTC
Quote:
Yaml is far worse


Politely not going to believe that. Certainly not for speed of processing.

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