Science & Industry

I'm wondering if I should try mining as my next =V= project.
As RL is getting more and more complicated, I have less and less time to play.

Been around since late 2007, I have 215mil SP in 2 characters (different accounts). The "pvp" one has 135mil SP and the "industrialist" has 80mil SP. Sold my Rorqual a while back, can fly Hulk with T2 lazors, can compress, and I still have my Jump Freighter (and a carrier).

Did spend some time the last days on Google reading guides, but all are so outdated.

My corp. just rented a -0.4 system in null and I plan to join them starting September.


I was thinking to use the pvp char. to tank/kill rats and loot/move/haul the mined ore. The industrialist will stay in its Hulk on the other screen and silently mine the rocks while I watch o movie or something on the main screen.

My first question would be: 1). how profitable can this be? where is mining now at in isk/hour?
Another thing that I'm wondering about is if I should by again a new Rorqual to compress my crap and to be able to jump out the ore/minerals. 2). btw, is there a difference between the rorqual compression and the pos array compression? (witch is better?)

I know I'm making more isk by grinding forsaken/heavens, but I'm so bored by that now and its a lot more clicks/min.

3). Can I boost my mining toon with a BC? I'm sure I can handle belt rats in a "boosting" BC.
4). Should I focus on some specific type of rock? like cherry picking from the belts or just go at everything in there?

Any other suggestions are welcomed.
I miss =V=, since I can't play atm. until September. That's why this post. ^^

1. Depends what you're mining, and boosts, etc. Max (in hisec) is about 15m/hr last I actually cared to check ... low/null is (IIRC) closer to 20.

2. If you're "just compressing", then the POS is better (as no extra fuel for the Industrial Core), but if you're doing the compression as secondary to the IC-bonused boosts, then the Rorq is better (although, in both instances, it's 100 Ore = 1 Compressed Ore).

3. You can, but you're not gonna get the same boosts as with an Orca or Rorqual, as they're bonused for the mining links.

4. That's more a question for your corp. If there are enough belts, then "get what you want" can work. However, I'm not one for maximizing my isk/hr with mining (as it's tertiary income, at best), so I'll typically just hoover everything.

If you're mining ore with only two characters, you would be better off isk wise doing almost anything else in the game. Without a hauler, your paper income drops a LOT, especially if you're in a hulk. You need an orca or rorqual boosting you to be even somewhat effective.

If you're in nullsec and join up with a 100% maxed rorqual booster and they haul your ore for you, you'd be making between 30-50 mil an hour at best.

If you're going solo with just your 2 characters, you're better off doing level 4 missions, exploring, pretty much anything other than mining ore.

The Hulk is going to give you the most yield. The problem is that the rorq must be in siege mode to give good bonuses. Even if you had a 100% rorqual in siege mode and a full t2 hulk and a hauler, the income still is horrible- especially if you don't have access to a good 0.0 refining station.

Don't mine with only two guys.

That's odd, I pasted this here for you in english - ISD Atomic Dove

Don't use a hulk if you're by yourself, go with a skiff. If rats spawn while you're hauling, you either warp out or die. Either way you lose out on money. With a skiff, you keep mining, and probably blow some rats up while your alt switches ships.

This is from a guy who mines in null extensively with 2 accounts. Skiff is better if you're not in a full fleet.

Do not use a hulk if a orca/rorquel is not attached at the hip. Use a Mac instead. you can use links in a bc but not as effective as the orca or sieged rorquel train the combat account to do the mining use orca and hulk with the combat account and keep a t3 in the hull for the rats.