Player Features and Ideas Discussion

If war dec where free.

If there was a 5 hour start up and 5 hour cool down cool down.

If you killed anyone while in an NPC corp you would be expelled from NPC corp. You would then be placed in your own corp. With a tutorial on living on your own.


The result of this would be mass war... War everywhere the horror.... Players would be forced to group together and form the space within space.

The only difference is that poor corps/alliances would live in high sec and low sec and richer/larger corps/alliances would be in null sec. We now have the sov tool to benifit this process.

I cannot decide whether this posting is just thoughtless or the OP is deliberately obtuse...

Just if it's the latter case.... Not now. Not ever.

Since when is something for free in EVE?

I think war deck and concord should be removed from game *runs for cover*

We need the ISK sink. Make it cost more.

oh wait... there's no "dislike" button?

Sorry but you're going to have to find your pvp the hard way like the rest of us.

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Ok in general more war means more isk lost. This would out weigh the amount of isk that is payed for war dec.


The risk/reward will increase with free war dec.

If wars were free you'd act like the 0rphanage.... you'd never leave jita. You'd never discover that EVE has low-sec and null-sec areas. You'd never discover that anything outside of 100 km of the Jita 4-4 station even existed..... You'd never learn how to PVP either 1:1 or in gangs and it would give rise to a whole creed of lazy high-sec pirates who never bothered to learn how to play the game.

As it is, I wish war decs cost 100x what they cost so the lazy buggers we have now would have to actually get involved.

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p.s. if this is the kind of game play you want then just join the 0rphanage and stop moaning about how much you have to pay for war decs.

OP is drunkenly trolling. +1 for good drunken grammer, however -5 for a stupid idea and trying to force your playstyle on everyone else.

wow...So your suggestion is ruin Eve and to give it all to the alliances.

1) Alliances shouldn't be able to assentially own or control any portion of high sec because it is owned by the factions. The fact that the Goons have started the Icecapades is crap. At a certain point the Gallente federation should have said "to hell with this, you're destroying our economy." and engaged war against the Goons. Yet for some reason the npc factions which are a major part of the sand box, don't seem to actually have any involvement with the out come of the sand box...Hell, npc wars don't even break out that FW players can jump into.

2) Free war decs does not mean that Eve will become more of what you want. It means that those carebear corps will negate the benefits of being in a player corp and just opt to stay in an npc corp, thus taking away from anyone that could be war decced so you can pad your killmails.

3) The alliances would place all of their alts into npc corps where they couldn't be decced and everything they do in relation to high sec would go through those alts, thus negating your so called purpose of free war decs which was cutting off alliance high sec supply chains.

4) Free war decs would instigate more high sec pirating because there would be no one to war dec besides other pirates, and none of the high sec pirates want a challenge when they fight. They want easy kills that require little to no skills. Therefore, they would revert to ganking members of npc corps.

5) This would rip apart the eve market. Many items researched and built to be put on the market at lower prices would stop happening because all those carebear corps that build POSes in order to do so wouldn't be in a player corp, thus they wouldn't have a POS to do so. So market prices would go up. OR, all of the items on the market would be put there and controlled by the alliances with no one to compete with but each other, so there would be less supply, more costs, and yet again more alliance control over what goes on in all of Eve.

Alliances should only have a say so in what happens in null sec amongst the alliances and what parts of low sec they can maintain control of.
They should not have any pull or effect in high sec other than the markets.
They can also have an effect in high sec thru wars, but wars should be much more costly than they are now to negate grief wars, killmail wars, and "cause I can wars."
Players are right in that you decide the reason for war and not some game mechanic, however, with the prices being increased by quite a bit, then it's up to you to determine if that reason is worth the costs, and I would say that easy kills aren't worth a higher cost to most players.

Oh, and Seriously....WTF are you thinking???