EVE General Discussion

Wow. Well spotted.

Now if only you had the intelligience to see what was written.

No clarification has been offerred from CCP.

The only official communications that allude to the future of WiS are Hilmars contradictory remarks "Incarna is an essential part of EVE/ Incarna is on ice, we may get back to it".

This is truly the thread that "may not be mentioned" by CCP!

I honestly think that can only mean on thing. There is a fundamental issue with the avatar rendering and animation engine that won't scale and render on hardware currently available on this plane of existence. nVidia sold CCP a barrel of snake oil and got them to bet on a tech science fair project and to deploy any more WiS on this tech would result in global fire storms as everyones PC catches on fire.

If this isn't a tech issue then I am sure we would at least have gotten some "weasel words" about getting back to WiS in some form soon.

Sadly the laws of physics have done CCP in.

I'm throwing down the gauntlet CCP, if it isn't a tech issue then put the WiS with multi-avatar in a station that you were so close to deploying on the test server so we can see it, even if it doesn't have interaction other than a lot of us walking around in a box.

Otherwise let us know when we see WiS re-coded on an engine that can be deployed.

Issler

I would like WIS to be completed sooner rather than later.

Sometime i like to log on and just sit in station. Would be nice if i could interact with other chars and maybe do a bit of gamblin'!

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CCP did the last patch in 6 weeks give them 6 months and they could make the only FIS people very happy,and have enough time to give the FIS/WIS people just a little smile




But i wonder why 0.0 or low are so bad ,did the game changed over the years or the players wanting more?
forgive me but just doing a little pvp lately sometimes in 0.0 and low,so experience on that is very low

Its not like people who want ccp to focus on wis = 50% of eve and fis = 50%. When you people who want fis you are talking about large sections of the game. Yes I am glad ccp is working on fis. But that is just because they will kill eve if they continue to focus so much on wis as they have.

I really don't like allot of the changes in crucible. Destroyer buff is just makes gate camping easier - but the players wanted it. Implants on podkills just puts more emphasis on a mechanic that is broken (will you pod warp out or not) - but the players wanted it.

As for me I am in fw and the plexing is currently broken. Its been broken since the start. But I recognize that there aren't allot of people in fw so I am considerate of ccp working on other things. If we had 2 dev blogs leading up to crucible (like you had for wis) I would be thrilled.

Just like you think wis has tremendous potential, I think FW plexing would have tremendous potential to get new players. I would point out that FW plexing actually has game play mechanics that wouldn't fit in a space barbie mmo. Becasue it actually has this gameplay mechanic and its not just eyecandy I think it should have some priority.

As for what happened in null sec and why there are no more wars. I think that will depend on who you ask. But a common answer is that dominion broke null sec - by making it so there is no reason to go to war. (whether this answer is true or not I don't know) But either way its clear there is very little going on in null sec and ccp needs to do something. Or people will get bored and unsub. Not only will they unsub their null sec main characters but they will unsub their high sec alts.

That is why I think the op is really out of touch. The core of the game is what needs to be addressed and he along with 140 others are throwing a tantrum because they don't know when they will be able to stroll down a promenade. They demand an immediate response.

FW players do this sometimes too. Thats annoying as well but at least they want something with some substantial game play.

I would like Wis aswell

I want corp meetings in avatar with my corp mates!

It is a tech issue, I'm pretty much as certain as I can be without working at CCP.

If I wasn't so jaded I would almost feel bad for them. But I can't, you know I would be happy tomorrow if they released the WiS of 08' fanfest. But they can't. So CCP has officially gone backwards.

It might as well be 2005 for WiS, but it's actually worse because now we're stuck with a non-functioning version which is going nowhere and needs to be replaced.

What happened with that?

Didn't they have full stations modeled, and mini-games done?

Did all of that work get scrapped?

I would like WIS as I like to chill between PVP and at the moment i have to go to other sites to play poker and other games with my isk , It would be cool to have a place to hang out inbetween ops with games to play., but I dont want a state of the art unplayable enviroment , I would rather have somthing more basic at first, that can be developed and enhanced at a later date, without using all of ccp resources and neglecting the Space (most important) part of eve. just make it like the demo you showed us years ago that would be a step in the right direction.

They changed engines, not only was the old work abandoned but even if they still had it, it would be worthless as they've completely redone the code since. The primary causal factor behind this apparently is that they wanted to begin work on an engine which could be used with WoD.



Yes, I'm pretty sure the fanfest videos are still on youtube somewhere, there were strategy games, gambling, establishments, stations pretty much done. Mothermoon says she was able to scrape a lot of station modeling from the Incarna SiSi build. So they may have that work done here as well but the fundamental problem is that they cannot render multi-user environments with the Incarna engine. Realization of this problem occurred just before or just after the release of Incarna at least to the community although much before Devs questioned in private had revealed that 'they had no idea how they were going to make it work with multiple users'

The end result is, CCP plowed down this dead end road probably with the attitude that problems and hurdles would be overcome later in development. But alas, they cannot, it's not possible with this engine and we're stuck in our tiny cells because of it.