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[IDEA] Mining escalations sites

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Desert Ice78
Gryphons of the Western Wind
#1 - 2014-08-19 09:41:57 UTC
My proposal - Clearing out an Ore Anomaly Site would give the chance of getting an escalation, similar in nature to combat escalations. Escalation site ore would be of a rarer and more valuable type then the inital anomaly. As a bonus - rats in said escalation would be of the type that you would expect to find normally patrolling belts of that type, i.e. low-sec rats for low-sec ore and nul-sec rats for nul-sec ore.

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Loonge Shadin
Beyond Reproach
#2 - 2014-08-19 10:17:39 UTC
I like it...Big smileBig smileBig smile
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#3 - 2014-08-19 10:45:37 UTC
I very much like that. As long as CCP puts more effort into designing these escalations and does not repeat the outrage which are the Ghost Sites and the Covert Sites.

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Fer'isam K'ahn
SAS Veterinarians
#4 - 2014-08-19 11:18:31 UTC
I hate to say it and you will be surprised, but Dryson actually suggested this.

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Leyete Wulf
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2014-08-19 13:00:31 UTC
I like this idea as well.
Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#6 - 2014-08-19 13:34:39 UTC
DrysonBennington wrote:
Once the NPC miner or hauler is attacked the belt may or may not escalate.


These rats dropping 'disks' that create or (can be handed into agents to create) mining sites and/or refineries/store houses to raid would be great fun.

what i wouldnt like however is that, if a mining site is created, only the player whom it was created for can easily reach it. basically im saying it should appear on the passive scanner and can be probed down.

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Trisha Landers
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#7 - 2014-08-19 17:01:36 UTC
Daichi Yamato wrote:
DrysonBennington wrote:
Once the NPC miner or hauler is attacked the belt may or may not escalate.


These rats dropping 'disks' that create or (can be handed into agents to create) mining sites and/or refineries/store houses to raid would be great fun.

what i wouldnt like however is that, if a mining site is created, only the player whom it was created for can easily reach it. basically im saying it should appear on the passive scanner and can be probed down.

I really like the idea of a belt escalation being a chance result of killing a hauler NPC, not so thrilled about it happening based on stripping an entire belt. Stripping entire belts is something bot fleets do in bulk, so they would be the ones to benefit. Hauler NPCs however are non-aggressive, so unless you specifically target them your drones are going to leave them alone. So it encourages at least paying a little bit of attention.

Love the idea of better ore + better rats. If possible I'd like it if the escalation continued spawning the better rats (so a "lowsec" quality escalation in highsec would continue sending lowsec rats whenever belt rats would normally appear.) I'd also like escalations from escalations, so it'd be possible, albeit very rare, to mine ABC in highsec. (but with nullsec rats)

As for the escalations being only reachable for the person that triggered it, I think the escalation should only be accessible to that person until they warp to it for the first time. Then it can show up either on the scanner like normal ore anomalies for everyone to see, or as a beacon on the overview (or both). This gives the person with the escalation a chance to actually make use of it before other miners (bot fleets) rush in and strip it all away.
Swiftstrike1
Swiftstrike Incorporated
#8 - 2014-08-19 17:10:06 UTC
Combat escalations are balanced by the fact that they spawn in lowsec and nullsec sometimes, even when you start the chain in hisec.

How would you "balance" these mining escalations, assuming that you would be against them spawning outside of hisec.

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Christopher Mabata
Northern Accounts and Systems
#9 - 2014-08-19 18:41:25 UTC
While i will never mine again i do support this idea, it would be particularly interesting if said ore escalation had a chance of spawning the elite rats too that scram so miners can't just warp in and tank everything in a mackinaw safely, perhaps even spawning a small squad of rats that might force the miner to come clear the site out in a PVE ship so they can mine in peace until the next spawn.

This would also attract a lot of targets as well if the rare ore escalations went to low sec from time to time, but had enough of a reason to make the miners want to come get that ore.

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Fer'isam K'ahn
SAS Veterinarians
#10 - 2014-08-19 18:48:28 UTC
Christopher Mabata wrote:
While i will never mine again i do support this idea, it would be particularly interesting if said ore escalation had a chance of spawning the elite rats too that scram so miners can't just warp in and tank everything in a mackinaw safely, ....

You haven't mined in a while I guess, a Mack would pop easily, gank victim #1 atm, since not many dare to fly a Hulk anymore. A Battle Skiff though will take care of the escalation Blink
Christopher Mabata
Northern Accounts and Systems
#11 - 2014-08-19 18:51:08 UTC
Fer'isam K'ahn wrote:
Christopher Mabata wrote:
While i will never mine again i do support this idea, it would be particularly interesting if said ore escalation had a chance of spawning the elite rats too that scram so miners can't just warp in and tank everything in a mackinaw safely, ....

You haven't mined in a while I guess, a Mack would pop easily, gank victim #1 atm, since not many dare to fly a Hulk anymore. A Battle Skiff though will take care of the escalation Blink


yeah its been almost 2 years since i last mined ( Discounting bait skiff's in low sec ice belts with cloaky tackle next to it )

beleive me i know mackinaws die a lot as i have a suicide ganking alt that kills more than a few each week. But if You actually tank them they can get a pretty respectable tank for a barge. Nothing compared to the absurdity of skiff's though.

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Discomanco
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#12 - 2014-08-19 19:30:38 UTC
Well, that would make people actually clear Omber belts.