EVE General Discussion

So the CSM didn't know.. shock, and so far only CCP Falcon has replied, also no disrespect to CCP Falcon but he is the EVE Community Manager, why would he know about this?

Also as many people have pointed about, we are talking about CCP here, communication is not their strong suite.



This is on the presumption that a GM was even involved. I do not why people seemed to think that any GM was involved on this matter. I mean you wouldn't even go via the petition system for this kind of thing.

Also as I said before, I give the GM's a lot more credit then you do. I do not believe that any GM would simply just okay this.



If this was the case, then yes I do because at the end of the day he was given the go ahead by somebody who works for CCP.

You can not punish a player acting on the advice given to him by somebody who was employed by CCP. To say that a player can be retrospectively punished for doing anything after a CCP employee has said it was okay is well quite frankly stupid.

If a player petitions to see if a certain activity is legal and a CCP Employee says yes, then you can not turn around x number of days later because of a few players out of 100,000's says it bad and then expect that player to be punished. Sure CCP can say actually we were wrong and that activity is no longer legal, but they can not punish the player, no matter who much you may hate him.

Your right, I do not agree with what he is doing, If CCP gave this the green light I think that this is a disgrace and to me shows me that CCP will do anything to earn a few extra quid and they have simply gone back to "greed is good" to do this shows a new level of desperation to try and earn a few extra bucks.

However, unlike you my issue is not with Somer in this instance. I say this because I am going on the presumption that he was given the green light by CCP. That is the most important aspect of this situation.

I couldn't care less if it was Somer, Goons, DNS Black or anybody else, that fact is as far as we are aware, CCP said this was okay. That is the Problem here.

lol.. it wouldn't be worth very much, I am very poor

Doesn't matter, I cannot let CCP's approval go to waste. Do it, do it now!

Oh no you didn't!

Frakk, he did...

WTF am I supposed to do with Helium Isotopes?

I haz a plan: I shall become isotopes tycoon and build my empire upon those 1667 units!

HA!

It this thread bothers you then don't read it.

Stop commenting on this thread, FFS! Problem solved.

Ima Wreckyou

Here is the thing, you do not have to gamble one isk to get your isk. There is no gambling at all involved this RMT enterprise.

" It this thread bothers you then don't read it.

Stop commenting on this thread, FFS! Problem solved."

-Ima Wreckyou


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Nothing like some side step logical fallacy work to move things along.


It appears that CCP, Somer, and a decent amount of the community are voting with their wallets. Its the only kind of vote that counts. I'd guess once this knowledge settles in, the small groups of dissenters will generally scatter faster than CODE in a tourny environment

Tell that to everyone who pushed for Erotica 1 to be banned. Prior to that case multiple petitions had been filed from both sides and scamming people and trolling them on teasmspeak was always allowed since it wasn't in game and the player could at any point disconnect. Cue a rage post, and rules get made then applied retroactively.

That said, this is slightly different, since there's no ambiguity, RMT is not allowed. If you give away isk and in return receive money, that's simply not allowed.

I don't disagree that I CCP sanctioned it then they are at fault and will lose a lot of faith for that. But at the same time, it's clearly an act of RMT. People shouldn't even be trying to engage in that, since it's highly damaging to the game, and if they do, they should be punished, no matter who they are. If this was the first time, then fair enough, benefit of the doubt and all that. But it's not. Swing that banhammer and make sure they, and anyone else considering it, gets the message.

Where do you suppose they got the trillions of liquid ISK to overpay for PLEXes with?

If it weren't for the pathetic dweebs that blow all their ISKies on rigged lottos, none of this would be happening now. Somer as a business would not exist.

Mr Epeen

E1 was never banned retrospectively or for any in game activity. He was banned because he posted the recordings of those who he scammed in order to humiliate them, plan and simple. As far as CCP was concerned, he broke the EULA/TOS in regards to harassment. Yes you can argue that those rules are vague, yes you can argue that it happened out of game, however he was not banned retrospectively.



Of course people are going to try and engage in RMT, just like people will always push the rules to breaking point and will happily break rules.

You can not have a game like Eve and not expect people to break the rules and try and get away with it.

Even if CCP made it so that if you are caught involved in RMT you will receive a lifetime ban on all of your accounts, people will still do it.

You can not say that if you approach CCP with an idea and they consider it to be a method of RMT that you will banned. If anything you want to encourage people to go to CCP in the first instance to see if their idea is okay. In this instance it appears that this is the case.