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[Hyperion] Burner Missions
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Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#21 - 2014-08-15 18:04:30 UTC
Fourteen Maken wrote:
Dam these missions would be good in low sec, if they could be run in reasonably cheap navy or t2 frigs with pvp tackle fit it would mean more people flying solo and I'm sure taking a few fights along the way to break up the boredom of PVE.

If it works well they should consider putting them in low sec too, and let them be run in common Tech2 PVP set ups.


From the Dev Blog:

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Burner Missions will be available from the normal level 4 security mission pool, issued by agents across highsec, lowsec and nullsec space.


^^

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Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
#22 - 2014-08-15 18:55:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Owen Levanth
Phaade wrote:
Its awesome, but I still have to grind out garbage level 4s to find a fun mission. That sucks.


Well, just search for a corp with a lot of level 4 agents, then go around and ask/decline until you get a burner mission. But don't worry, CCP already promised more of them, up to cruiser sized later on and maybe their own dedicated agents with some sort of restriction attached like epic arc missions.
Fer'isam K'ahn
SAS Veterinarians
#23 - 2014-08-15 19:02:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Fer'isam K'ahn
Well, I wouldn't worry, probably over 80 or even 90% of L4 mission runners in High Sec haven't trained past racial frigate level 3 - there are going to eb a lot of people bruning and then offering them up for fleet or asking for help...

And imagine all the gankers in Osmon waiting for the SoE runners to get one, watch the palyer frig blow on 200.000 D-Sccan and warp in an gank the rat °°

Lots of content coming...

I can remote rep the rat without getting flagged right Big smileBig smileBig smileBig smile
Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
#24 - 2014-08-15 19:07:49 UTC
Fer'isam K'ahn wrote:
Well, I wouldn't worry, probably over 80 or even 90% of L4 mission runners in High Sec haven't trained past racial frigate level 3 - there are going to eb a lot of people bruning and then offering them up for fleet or asking for help...

And imagine all the gankers in Osmon waiting for the SoE runners to get one, watch the palyer frig blow on 200.000 D-Sccan and warp in an gank the rat °°

Lots of content coming...

I can remote rep the rat without getting flagged right Big smileBig smileBig smileBig smile


Don't forget they have sleeper AI, which targets enemy ewar and reps first. So hopefully your gank frig is up to the task. Lol
Fer'isam K'ahn
SAS Veterinarians
#25 - 2014-08-15 19:13:05 UTC
Well, got all racial and AS CO small weapons etc to 5 ..... and they target reps even directed at them.. never tried that ?!
Komodo Askold
Strategic Exploration and Development Corp
Silent Company
#26 - 2014-08-15 20:04:16 UTC
That's a really awesome idea. It will surely refresh the missioning experience and might interest more people into PVP. If anything, I would suggest the Burners to have randomized stats and tactics. Some sort of modular PVE content. Apart from that, a big +1 from me.
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#27 - 2014-08-15 20:35:23 UTC
Komodo Askold wrote:
That's a really awesome idea. It will surely refresh the missioning experience and might interest more people into PVP. If anything, I would suggest the Burners to have randomized stats and tactics. Some sort of modular PVE content. Apart from that, a big +1 from me.


Alternative scenario: Mission runners try them and realize just how much of a nuisance PVPesque PVE is and don't do them again. Some might do them every now and then for a laugh or an occasional adrenaline rush. I only see a very tiny minority that might think about venturing more into PVP after playing such missions.

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Fourteen Maken
Karma and Causality
#28 - 2014-08-15 20:36:13 UTC
Rivr Luzade wrote:
Fourteen Maken wrote:
Dam these missions would be good in low sec, if they could be run in reasonably cheap navy or t2 frigs with pvp tackle fit it would mean more people flying solo and I'm sure taking a few fights along the way to break up the boredom of PVE.

If it works well they should consider putting them in low sec too, and let them be run in common Tech2 PVP set ups.


From the Dev Blog:

Quote:
Burner Missions will be available from the normal level 4 security mission pool, issued by agents across highsec, lowsec and nullsec space.


^^


Sorry must've misread it, I'm half asleep here.

Anyway I don't think I want to start grinding lvl4's in low sec just to get a few burner missions now and then, which is a shame. High sec doesn't need dedicated agents for them, but I think low sec would benefit from having a few agents who only give this type of mission.
Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
#29 - 2014-08-15 21:28:13 UTC
Fourteen Maken wrote:
Rivr Luzade wrote:
Fourteen Maken wrote:
Dam these missions would be good in low sec, if they could be run in reasonably cheap navy or t2 frigs with pvp tackle fit it would mean more people flying solo and I'm sure taking a few fights along the way to break up the boredom of PVE.

If it works well they should consider putting them in low sec too, and let them be run in common Tech2 PVP set ups.


From the Dev Blog:

Quote:
Burner Missions will be available from the normal level 4 security mission pool, issued by agents across highsec, lowsec and nullsec space.


^^


Sorry must've misread it, I'm half asleep here.

Anyway I don't think I want to start grinding lvl4's in low sec just to get a few burner missions now and then, which is a shame. High sec doesn't need dedicated agents for them, but I think low sec would benefit from having a few agents who only give this type of mission.


If I read CCP's plans correctly, they want to add more and more burner missions over time, including slowly heavier targets up to cruiser missions.

So nothing speaks against dedicated agents later on, with some sort of restriction to prevent farming. (Something like 7 missions per week/agent)

Overall, the entirety of New Eden proftis from this fresh, new system of missions. Their decision to add them to High, Low and NullSec was a good one and I expect dedicated burner agents to likewise be spread over all of New Eden.
Komodo Askold
Strategic Exploration and Development Corp
Silent Company
#30 - 2014-08-16 09:47:54 UTC
Rivr Luzade wrote:
Komodo Askold wrote:
That's a really awesome idea. It will surely refresh the missioning experience and might interest more people into PVP. If anything, I would suggest the Burners to have randomized stats and tactics. Some sort of modular PVE content. Apart from that, a big +1 from me.


Alternative scenario: Mission runners try them and realize just how much of a nuisance PVPesque PVE is and don't do them again. Some might do them every now and then for a laugh or an occasional adrenaline rush. I only see a very tiny minority that might think about venturing more into PVP after playing such missions.
In my opinion, that's a quite pessimistic view. Not all mission runners are as PVP-aversed as it seems. Myself, I run missions and other PVE activities just to fund my PVP and other activities (and because it's fun on itself).

I wonder about the name of these pirates, "Burners". I wonder whether we'll get a chronic along with the expansion...
JAF Anders
Adenosine Inhibition
#31 - 2014-08-18 15:58:29 UTC
Rivr Luzade wrote:

Alternative scenario: Mission runners try them and realize just how much of a nuisance PVPesque PVE is and don't do them again. Some might do them every now and then for a laugh or an occasional adrenaline rush. I only see a very tiny minority that might think about venturing more into PVP after playing such missions.


I believe Incursions are a strong parallel to this, though my observations there indicate different results.

Perhaps you're right, though. Perhaps people will walk away embittered against a game they don't understand.

Perhaps that's just the status quo.

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