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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#41 - 2014-08-18 02:18:55 UTC
Jake Entar wrote:
Adult supervision to play this game? Just turn the graphics off that show weapons being shot in space. Minecraft can be worse than eve at times o.O

Why, those effects are likely what he likes.
Again, its local and/or corpchat that might be unstable.

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Joshua Milton Blahyi
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#42 - 2014-08-18 02:28:03 UTC
Benji Bobbb wrote:
Thanks for the input. Hes not a couch potato and is involved in sorts etc. Maybe might just let him watch and listen in for a while so he knows what to expect. Obviously there is some adult content but I hope....well I know he is mature enough to either ignore it. If he were to start playing i wouldn't expose him to pvp. Mainly just carebeaing up in high sec mining and doing missions.


Which opens him up to PvP, and the wonderful high sec carebears who pretend they are elite PvPers.

Most of the people recommending this course of action are just imagining free kills.
Shiloh Templeton
Cheyenne HET Co
#43 - 2014-08-18 02:50:44 UTC
Benji Bobbb wrote:
My 10 year old son announced to me last night he wants to play eve. He currently plays minecraft and he picks up games really quick. He is already the encyclopedia of minecraft.
Is 10 too young to get him started or has anyone else got youngish kids playing eve.
It would be nice to play with him as I hate Minecraft with a passion and probable would help his learning.

Will you have to explain to him why Dad is a girl?
Yang Aurilen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#44 - 2014-08-18 03:30:09 UTC
Shiloh Templeton wrote:
Benji Bobbb wrote:
My 10 year old son announced to me last night he wants to play eve. He currently plays minecraft and he picks up games really quick. He is already the encyclopedia of minecraft.
Is 10 too young to get him started or has anyone else got youngish kids playing eve.
It would be nice to play with him as I hate Minecraft with a passion and probable would help his learning.

Will you have to explain to him why Dad is a girl?


You mean not all of us virgin basement dwelling neackbears choose to play as a female space elf in the space wow sim called eve online?P

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Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#45 - 2014-08-18 03:33:28 UTC
Yang Aurilen wrote:
You mean not all of us virgin basement dwelling neackbears choose to play as a female space elf in the space wow sim called eve online?P

This does raise another question.

How does the OP have a son? Questions need to be asked.
BLACK-STAR
#46 - 2014-08-18 04:09:02 UTC
10 is too young for a child to be paranoid.
Serene Repose
#47 - 2014-08-18 05:01:19 UTC
Are you sure son isn't just wanting to do something with parent, and parent is so obviously INTO EVE that son thought it might be "good" to seem as interested...in a "I'm still here, too" kind of way. (Of course you'll say "no".) I'd say unequivocally a ten year old has better things to do than this. Maybe someone should push themselves away from the computer, and head for the hobby store perhaps...model rocketry...gas-powered airplanes...anything but developing a "reason" to stay indoors.

I hasten to add, the child will learn a lot more of what the child needs to know engaged in activities involving the hands, feet, eyes, brain...come on. You really had to ask this question?

We must accommodate the idiocracy.
Belt Scout
Thread Lockaholics Anonymous
#48 - 2014-08-18 05:27:53 UTC
The question you have to ask yourself is do u really want your son to see how you and your friends act online?

Might as well just let him on these forums in that case.

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They say most of your brain shuts down on the EvE forums. All but the impatient side, and the sarcastic side. No wonder I'm still awake.

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#49 - 2014-08-18 06:43:27 UTC
Benji Bobbb wrote:
My 10 year old son announced to me last night he wants to play eve. He currently plays minecraft and he picks up games really quick. He is already the encyclopedia of minecraft.
Is 10 too young to get him started or has anyone else got youngish kids playing eve.
It would be nice to play with him as I hate Minecraft with a passion and probable would help his learning.



When I used to teach hunter education I had students as young as 5. For every kid that is viewed as responsible enough who would be pulling trigger on a real gun, there as at least 1 other that you could not trust with a sharpened pencil.


So ultimately it's up to the parents. If you think your kid can handle it, then you need not be here asking.



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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#50 - 2014-08-18 06:58:47 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
For every kid that is viewed as responsible enough who would be pulling trigger on a real gun, there as at least 1 other that you could not trust with a sharpened pencil.
TBH that goes for adults too, most seem to see firearms as either an extension of a part of their anatomy, or an evil that must be stamped out at all costs in the case of the UK. Neither group should be trusted with pointy sticks, let alone firearms.

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#51 - 2014-08-18 07:12:37 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
For every kid that is viewed as responsible enough who would be pulling trigger on a real gun, there as at least 1 other that you could not trust with a sharpened pencil.
TBH that goes for adults too, most seem to see firearms as either an extension of a part of their anatomy, or an evil that must be stamped out at all costs in the case of the UK. Neither group should be trusted with pointy sticks, let alone firearms.



Without getting into politics nor derailing the thread, we could agree that there is certainly a pattern where pointy sticks and Eve online are not for some people.

An old redneck used to tell me "A man's got to know his limitations".


I think the kid will be fine. Heck there are times if I wonder if someone will get a kid started on the game real young, and tell the kid "The game is all about blowing up ships every chance you get, no matter what". Would this be creating a monster, a player with thousands of kills before he was old enough to shave? What would such a player be like? Would he win Eve? Big smile

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Serene Repose
#52 - 2014-08-18 09:34:16 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
For every kid that is viewed as responsible enough who would be pulling trigger on a real gun, there as at least 1 other that you could not trust with a sharpened pencil.
TBH that goes for adults too, most seem to see firearms as either an extension of a part of their anatomy, or an evil that must be stamped out at all costs in the case of the UK. Neither group should be trusted with pointy sticks, let alone firearms.



Without getting into politics nor derailing the thread, we could agree that there is certainly a pattern where pointy sticks and Eve online are not for some people.

An old redneck used to tell me "A man's got to know his limitations".


I think the kid will be fine. Heck there are times if I wonder if someone will get a kid started on the game real young, and tell the kid "The game is all about blowing up ships every chance you get, no matter what". Would this be creating a monster, a player with thousands of kills before he was old enough to shave? What would such a player be like? Would he win Eve? Big smile


Stealing a Dirty Harry line ... that says a lot Herzog. There's no justification on earth for a ten year old to be doing this. Sorry. Anybody who says otherwise has a problem with facts. An old man once told ME, "Facts are stubborn things."

We must accommodate the idiocracy.
Victor Andall
#53 - 2014-08-18 10:20:17 UTC
I really like heroin. It's bad for me and slowly destroying me but I like it. Should I give my kid a hit and see if he likes it?

THERE'S YOUR ANSWER, OP! CAN'T YOU SEE WHAT THIS IS DOING TO US?

But seriously, yeah sure, you can let him have a go. Just be prepared for his first experience with "generating content".

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Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#54 - 2014-08-18 10:26:38 UTC
Benji Bobbb wrote:
My 10 year old son announced to me last night he wants to play eve. He currently plays minecraft and he picks up games really quick. He is already the encyclopedia of minecraft.
Is 10 too young to get him started or has anyone else got youngish kids playing eve.
It would be nice to play with him as I hate Minecraft with a passion and probable would help his learning.


In my opinion, and only my opinion, I'd say you'd have to make a judgement call on his maturity for his age. Can he handle mature interaction and the chat that takes place in game? How will he react when he's mistaken for the adult that we're all going to assume he is, as mentioned earlier? How will getting possibly addicted to or obsessed with the game affect his progress at school? It would be up to you to ask yourself these questions, amongst others you should take some time to consider, including how you would go about moderating his time spent in the game, if such moderation is needed, and make that judgement call.

I don't think anyone here knows your boy like you do, so all we can give you is opinions. Maybe one of them will lead to a direction, but end of the day, it's entirely your call.

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#55 - 2014-08-18 10:27:28 UTC
Serene Repose wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
For every kid that is viewed as responsible enough who would be pulling trigger on a real gun, there as at least 1 other that you could not trust with a sharpened pencil.
TBH that goes for adults too, most seem to see firearms as either an extension of a part of their anatomy, or an evil that must be stamped out at all costs in the case of the UK. Neither group should be trusted with pointy sticks, let alone firearms.



Without getting into politics nor derailing the thread, we could agree that there is certainly a pattern where pointy sticks and Eve online are not for some people.

An old redneck used to tell me "A man's got to know his limitations".


I think the kid will be fine. Heck there are times if I wonder if someone will get a kid started on the game real young, and tell the kid "The game is all about blowing up ships every chance you get, no matter what". Would this be creating a monster, a player with thousands of kills before he was old enough to shave? What would such a player be like? Would he win Eve? Big smile


Stealing a Dirty Harry line ... that says a lot Herzog. There's no justification on earth for a ten year old to be doing this. Sorry. Anybody who says otherwise has a problem with facts. An old man once told ME, "Facts are stubborn things."

Entirely not the case, literally all the adult content of eve happens on com's and in local/Corp chat, barring those there is absolutely nothing adult about it,

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#56 - 2014-08-18 10:41:42 UTC
Serene Repose wrote:
There's no justification on earth for a ten year old to be doing this. Sorry. Anybody who says otherwise has a problem with facts. An old man once told ME, "Facts are stubborn things."

Categorical statements are categorically wrong. There are plenty of justifications and the only fact here is that your belief that there aren't any does not mean they don't exist. That's what the old man was trying to tell you: you may believe otherwise, but that won't make the fact of the matter go away.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#57 - 2014-08-18 10:57:04 UTC
Serene Repose wrote:
I hasten to add, the child will learn a lot more of what the child needs to know engaged in activities involving the hands, feet, eyes, brain...come on. You really had to ask this question?

I hasten to add that EVE uses all of these except the feet.

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Robert Sawyer
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#58 - 2014-08-18 11:00:10 UTC
Let the kid play.
AND MAY YOU CREATE THE ULTIMATE GANK BREED FROM HIM!

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Vyktor Abyss
Abyss Research
#59 - 2014-08-18 11:20:14 UTC
If you're serious then I am sorry he has you for a parent if you come to the forum to help decide that.

This community spews an incredible amount of bile, offensive language, paedophile 'jokes', racism, homophobia, porn links, as well as celebrate those people who are expert at upsetting other players. Yes there are lots of good people in the community but even the nicest folks end up in a hate spewing rage sometimes - that's Eve.

The idea that you would consider exposing your 10 year old to all that and making him part of that community is slightly disturbing? I mean why not just buy him a gun, send him out with 20 cigs, and a litre of whiskey in your new car too while you're at it?

Stop being silly, make him wait at least 6 years.
Christopher AET
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#60 - 2014-08-18 11:27:46 UTC
Age means very little in eve in my opinion. I have met mature 16 year olds with a natural FC ability and real leadership. I have met players in their 70's who are petulant abusive and bad at personal interaction. Age is only a number.

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