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PL has had 90% of the ad space.

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Xenuria
#1 - 2014-08-17 17:14:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Xenuria
Can anybody tell me why a single alliance has had over 90% of the advertising after a solid day of coverage?
Why is there no listing of when ads will be played?


~The Problem~
CCP ArnarV wrote:

  • Each corp/alliance/website are allocated one ad slot in each cycle. You can submit multiple adverts but they will rotate with each cycle of all the tournament ads.


    • Submitting MORE ads does not give you MORE time. Just more variety. Unfortunately the majority of ads shown after the first 2 days have been Pandemic Legion ads. The idea of allowing players to make up the ad space is a great one, however like anything in the eve universe oversight must exist to prevent abuse. CCP has had no oversight in terms of EvE Tv this year, no roster or official schedule has been listed yet.

    CCP ArnarV wrote:

    Sorry about that. While I was knee high in cables and tweaking hardware I had another person help me to create ad packages for the day but there was some misunderstanding so the ads did not go into the correct order.

    I'm going to try to get a last minute fix for today.




    What recourse does the player-base have when all official channels are either non-responsive or non-existent?

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    WarFireV
    The Scope
    Gallente Federation
    #2 - 2014-08-17 17:17:10 UTC
    Clearly we need more of your CSM10 Ad.
    Xenuria
    #3 - 2014-08-17 17:18:19 UTC
    WarFireV wrote:
    Clearly we need more of your CSM10 Ad.


    Yes. I didn't even get to see it or know when it was going to be shown!

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    Dracoth Simertet
    Red Federation
    RvB - RED Federation
    #4 - 2014-08-17 18:43:17 UTC
    Xenuria wrote:
    WarFireV wrote:
    Clearly we need more of your CSM10 Ad.


    Yes. I didn't even get to see it or know when it was going to be shown!




    I've seen it twice and I really wish I had not.


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    Drac
    Talas Dir
    Super Happy Fun Corp
    #5 - 2014-08-17 19:20:18 UTC
    Why does PL have most of the ad space you ask? it's obviously because they are going to win. everyone knows it, PL are just doing everyone an egg by reminding them of the obvious.
    Faife
    Dreddit
    Test Alliance Please Ignore
    #6 - 2014-08-17 19:47:58 UTC
    no, it's hydra's turn this year
    Athryn Bellee
    Pandemic Horde Inc.
    Pandemic Horde
    #7 - 2014-08-17 22:03:49 UTC
    Maybe they paid to have that much coverage?
    Garandras
    The Scope
    Gallente Federation
    #8 - 2014-08-17 23:07:43 UTC
    Its because the Ads are based on Submissions.. and PL submitted a lot of different ads

    its simply that and that alone
    Xenuria
    #9 - 2014-08-17 23:07:54 UTC
    CCP ArnarV wrote:


  • Each corp/alliance/website are allocated one ad slot in each cycle. You can submit multiple adverts but they will rotate with each cycle of all the tournament ads.


    • It is self evident that Pandemic Legion has not followed this rule.

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    Faife
    Dreddit
    Test Alliance Please Ignore
    #10 - 2014-08-17 23:50:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Faife
    Xenuria wrote:
    CCP ArnarV wrote:


  • Each corp/alliance/website are allocated one ad slot in each cycle. You can submit multiple adverts but they will rotate with each cycle of all the tournament ads.


    • It is self evident that Pandemic Legion has not followed this rule.


    individual corps in PL submitted separate ads. TEST has a separate alliance ad, an EVAAK ad, a Rubella ad, and a DIX ad, off the top of my head.

    maybe you should get some friends so they can submit their own ads about you?
    Xenuria
    #11 - 2014-08-18 02:34:04 UTC
    Faife wrote:
    Xenuria wrote:
    CCP ArnarV wrote:


  • Each corp/alliance/website are allocated one ad slot in each cycle. You can submit multiple adverts but they will rotate with each cycle of all the tournament ads.


    • It is self evident that Pandemic Legion has not followed this rule.


    individual corps in PL submitted separate ads. TEST has a separate alliance ad, an EVAAK ad, a Rubella ad, and a DIX ad, off the top of my head.

    maybe you should get some friends so they can submit their own ads about you?


    Where that the case it does nothing to explain away the persistence of the SAME PL ads over and over.
    Did several people all submit the exact same PL ad?

    CSM 12 Candidate
    Faife
    Dreddit
    Test Alliance Please Ignore
    #12 - 2014-08-18 02:35:53 UTC
    for a polymath you're sure rubbish at counting
    Xenuria
    #13 - 2014-08-18 02:37:27 UTC
    Faife wrote:
    for a polymath you're sure rubbish at counting


    Math as in science not as in mathematics.
    The point remains, something unfair has happened and I intent to make noise about it like I always do.

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    Anthologee
    Reversing Entropy.
    Gimme Da Loot
    #14 - 2014-08-18 03:30:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Anthologee
    Xenuria wrote:
    Faife wrote:
    for a polymath you're sure rubbish at counting


    Math as in science not as in mathematics.
    The point remains, something unfair has happened and I intent to make noise about it like I always do.


    From memory what i noticed about the PL ads were :
    Waffles ad with recruitment
    seperate Waffles ad showing announcers dancing
    PL B-R tribute ad
    PL ad
    To be fair, i found them entertaining, especially watching the announcers dance to Waffles.

    Same with the Test ad showing the Test Dinosaur in the studio.

    I imagine the general rule of thumb was : Aslong as ads are different and are placed via different corps then they are going to be shown. If anything i would prefer more ads in the cycle instead of staring at the Alliance Tournament logo for minutes on end.

    *Edit* while it would also be nice i imagine for the people who input the ad's to be able to see the ad has been shown, any time frame given would likely be fairly off target as issues happen and cause delays, however if CCP were to say your ad would be shown between "XX match and XXX match" that would work.
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    Perkone
    Caldari State
    #15 - 2014-08-18 03:47:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Ritsum
    Xenuria wrote:
    WarFireV wrote:
    Clearly we need more of your CSM10 Ad.


    Yes. I didn't even get to see it or know when it was going to be shown!



    I saw it a few times and cringed every time, does that count?

    With the other Ad's I have seen most of them a few times now so maybe it would be better with more ads in the pool instead of complaining about how many Ad's PL has.

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    #16 - 2014-08-18 06:10:44 UTC
    Xenuria wrote:
    The point remains, something unfair has happened and I intent to make noise about it like I always do.

    No. You intend to make noise about it in a last ditch attempt to be relevent... As per usual...

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    #17 - 2014-08-18 13:26:34 UTC
    Xenuria wrote:
    The point remains, something unfair has happened


    I agree something unfair has happened.... you have taken at least 1 minute from my life that i will not get back having to watch your teribad advert Roll

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    #18 - 2014-08-18 15:06:04 UTC
    Even my son was walking around yesterday singing the waffles song…. You need to learn video marketing lvl5

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    Xenuria
    #19 - 2014-08-18 16:54:23 UTC
    You're Mum wrote:
    Even my son was walking around yesterday singing the waffles song…. You need to learn video marketing lvl5


    Marketing a product/service is not the same as marketing a concept or idea.

    Xenuria even by itself is a concept.
    When you add CSM to xenuria the concept is given context.

    My ad did exactly what I wanted it to do.

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    Charmide
    Deep Core Mining Inc.
    Caldari State
    #20 - 2014-08-18 17:53:58 UTC
    CCPlease replace the finals with an awards ceremony for the ads, tia.
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