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Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#61 - 2014-08-15 06:56:57 UTC
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:

Only in case of gallentean intervention, and they DID intervene, knowing about this.
This is how low gallenteans value human lives.

Claudia Osyn wrote:
preceded by an unlawful incursion into sovereign Gallente space, the attack was justified.

What was unlawful, is gallentean desire to "Exterminate all Caldari".
What was unlawful, is gallentean police, that instead of protecting Caldari from genocidal gallenteans, were beating them.
What was unlawful, is not giving our planet back after the war has ended.
What was unlawful, is attacking OUR ships on an orbit of OUR planet
What was unlawful, is occupying our planet in first place
And what was unlawful, is occupying again half of the planet, after our glorious hero Tibus Heth returned what gallentean swines stole from us, to rightful owners - Caldari people!

Only anti-human war criminals would consider this attack justified. It broke all rules of waging a war.

Claudia Osyn wrote:
It was a stupid move on the Caldari navy to move that titan closer to the planet anyway, who wouldn't bring orbital support to an engagement like that?

Stupid move is for an uneducated civilian to tell military State professionals what was stupid and what was not.
The planet was under attack of gallentean invaders, and fleet moved into position to support our troops against occupation attempt.

Claudia Osyn wrote:
The only reason that titan fell on that planet is because provists were too arrogant. They could have left the titan in high orbit knowing it was a priority target and destruction in low orbit would be a disaster.

If titan was a target, it would be destroyed on high orbit, without planetary invasion.
This is incredibly stupid to consider, that main goal was just destruction of the titan, because this is simple ignoring of all the facts, except about the titan itself.

There was a Caldari FLEET, guarding OUR planet.

And the operation begin not with attack on the titan, and not on the fleet itself, but with GROUND invasion.

Gallentean propagandists simply try to convince their stupid citizens that it was attack "only on titan", to hide their crimes against humanity.

Well, you seem to have an answer for everything... An answer given from a skiewed and narrow point of view. But, if you can feel justified with it then by all means, enjoy being the victim and bitterly hating everyone for the rest of your life....

Answer by watching facts, and not taken from gallentean propaganda.
And if I don't take gallentean propaganda and their lies that they "came only after Shiigeru" into consideration, it doesn't mean my point of view is narrow. It is counterwise, those who believe in this gallentean crap has narrow point of view, while there are lots of facts, that show what happened besides attack on the titan.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#62 - 2014-08-15 15:45:52 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:

Answer by watching facts, and not taken from gallentean propaganda.
And if I don't take gallentean propaganda and their lies that they "came only after Shiigeru" into consideration, it doesn't mean my point of view is narrow. It is counterwise, those who believe in this gallentean crap has narrow point of view, while there are lots of facts, that show what happened besides attack on the titan.
but your "facts" are nothing more than provist propaganda, why should I listen to them?

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
#63 - 2014-08-15 15:49:12 UTC
I was going to say, "People are still arguing about this?"

But then I saw it was actually something about Caldari Prime that people were still arguing about.

Not whether or not the Federation Senate is populated entirely by robot impostors.

Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#64 - 2014-08-15 16:22:08 UTC
Valerie Valate wrote:
I was going to say, "People are still arguing about this?"

But then I saw it was actually something about Caldari Prime that people were still arguing about.

Not whether or not the Federation Senate is populated entirely by robot impostors.

All political figures are robots, all of them. No news there.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#65 - 2014-08-15 21:53:06 UTC
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:

Answer by watching facts, and not taken from gallentean propaganda.
And if I don't take gallentean propaganda and their lies that they "came only after Shiigeru" into consideration, it doesn't mean my point of view is narrow. It is counterwise, those who believe in this gallentean crap has narrow point of view, while there are lots of facts, that show what happened besides attack on the titan.
but your "facts" are nothing more than provist propaganda, why should I listen to them?

My facts is what can be confirmed through reading news, combat reports, holo recordings and talking with participants.
The same facts, that narrow-minded gallenteans simply ignore with their blind hatred.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#66 - 2014-08-15 22:07:16 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:

Answer by watching facts, and not taken from gallentean propaganda.
And if I don't take gallentean propaganda and their lies that they "came only after Shiigeru" into consideration, it doesn't mean my point of view is narrow. It is counterwise, those who believe in this gallentean crap has narrow point of view, while there are lots of facts, that show what happened besides attack on the titan.
but your "facts" are nothing more than provist propaganda, why should I listen to them?

My facts is what can be confirmed through reading news, combat reports, holo recordings and talking with participants.
The same facts, that narrow-minded gallenteans simply ignore with their blind hatred.

*shruggs* I could say the same. It's just a matter of who wrote the report you read, who covered the news story you followed, which holo recordings you watched and which side of the fight the participants you spoke to were on. I doubt you even attempted to find a non bias source of information, and if you did your own bias made it read the way you wanted it to. Because you want to hate us.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#67 - 2014-08-16 16:14:15 UTC
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:

Answer by watching facts, and not taken from gallentean propaganda.
And if I don't take gallentean propaganda and their lies that they "came only after Shiigeru" into consideration, it doesn't mean my point of view is narrow. It is counterwise, those who believe in this gallentean crap has narrow point of view, while there are lots of facts, that show what happened besides attack on the titan.
but your "facts" are nothing more than provist propaganda, why should I listen to them?

My facts is what can be confirmed through reading news, combat reports, holo recordings and talking with participants.
The same facts, that narrow-minded gallenteans simply ignore with their blind hatred.

*shruggs* I could say the same. It's just a matter of who wrote the report you read, who covered the news story you followed, which holo recordings you watched and which side of the fight the participants you spoke to were on. I doubt you even attempted to find a non bias source of information, and if you did your own bias made it read the way you wanted it to. Because you want to hate us.


Please don't suggest her Provist-sanctioned media is not the only media. Clearly Dear Leader Heth didn't mean to confound any of us, right?

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#68 - 2014-08-16 17:00:52 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:

Answer by watching facts, and not taken from gallentean propaganda.
And if I don't take gallentean propaganda and their lies that they "came only after Shiigeru" into consideration, it doesn't mean my point of view is narrow. It is counterwise, those who believe in this gallentean crap has narrow point of view, while there are lots of facts, that show what happened besides attack on the titan.
but your "facts" are nothing more than provist propaganda, why should I listen to them?

My facts is what can be confirmed through reading news, combat reports, holo recordings and talking with participants.
The same facts, that narrow-minded gallenteans simply ignore with their blind hatred.

*shruggs* I could say the same. It's just a matter of who wrote the report you read, who covered the news story you followed, which holo recordings you watched and which side of the fight the participants you spoke to were on. I doubt you even attempted to find a non bias source of information, and if you did your own bias made it read the way you wanted it to. Because you want to hate us.


Please don't suggest her Provist-sanctioned media is not the only media. Clearly Dear Leader Heth didn't mean to confound any of us, right?

Clearly, Heath was an honorable and just leader with the best intrests of the state in his walle-...errr heart.


Also, he was a robot double.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#69 - 2014-08-17 07:59:57 UTC
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:

Answer by watching facts, and not taken from gallentean propaganda.
And if I don't take gallentean propaganda and their lies that they "came only after Shiigeru" into consideration, it doesn't mean my point of view is narrow. It is counterwise, those who believe in this gallentean crap has narrow point of view, while there are lots of facts, that show what happened besides attack on the titan.
but your "facts" are nothing more than provist propaganda, why should I listen to them?

My facts is what can be confirmed through reading news, combat reports, holo recordings and talking with participants.
The same facts, that narrow-minded gallenteans simply ignore with their blind hatred.

*shruggs* I could say the same. It's just a matter of who wrote the report you read, who covered the news story you followed, which holo recordings you watched and which side of the fight the participants you spoke to were on. I doubt you even attempted to find a non bias source of information, and if you did your own bias made it read the way you wanted it to. Because you want to hate us.

Oh, unbiased information, you say. Okay.

I WAS in this fight.
And where was YOU?!

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#70 - 2014-08-17 21:20:42 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:

Answer by watching facts, and not taken from gallentean propaganda.
And if I don't take gallentean propaganda and their lies that they "came only after Shiigeru" into consideration, it doesn't mean my point of view is narrow. It is counterwise, those who believe in this gallentean crap has narrow point of view, while there are lots of facts, that show what happened besides attack on the titan.
but your "facts" are nothing more than provist propaganda, why should I listen to them?

My facts is what can be confirmed through reading news, combat reports, holo recordings and talking with participants.
The same facts, that narrow-minded gallenteans simply ignore with their blind hatred.

*shruggs* I could say the same. It's just a matter of who wrote the report you read, who covered the news story you followed, which holo recordings you watched and which side of the fight the participants you spoke to were on. I doubt you even attempted to find a non bias source of information, and if you did your own bias made it read the way you wanted it to. Because you want to hate us.

Oh, unbiased information, you say. Okay.

I WAS in this fight.
And where was YOU?!

Asleep most likely. And being in the fight only lends to your bias on the situation. You are not arguing fact, you're arguing opinion and perspective.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#71 - 2014-08-17 22:38:50 UTC
Claudia Osyn wrote:

Asleep most likely. And being in the fight only lends to your bias on the situation. You are not arguing fact, you're arguing opinion and perspective.

Okay, lets recount it:
Gallentean racism, writings to "Exterminate all Caldari", destruction of temples and arhaeological sites on Caldari Prime right before the war? - Fact. (please check news sources)
Inefficiency of gallentean police, that instead of protecting Caldari from genocidal gallenteans, were beating them - fact as well, check news sources once again.
That after the war between Caldari and Gallente was ended, Caldari Prime was still occupied by gallenteans and diplomatic ways couldn't return the planet to us? - Well, this is widely known fact.
When gallenteans attacked Shiigeru and Caldari Prime, it was our ship on our planet orbit. The planet was given to us by Foiritan after we captured it by power and placed our fleet there. Please consult official paper that was signed six years ago.
That gallente again occupy part of our planet, this is fact again (just go to Caldari Prime and see, there are still gallente regions).
This is also fact, that prior to attacking Shiigeru, gallenteans sent ground troops to Caldari Prime. Attack has begun way earlier than gallentean fleet warped to the orbit. There are multiple evidences to this, including holo recordings and words of many soldiers, who were fighting groundside.

You can go back to sleeping now.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Talas Dir
Super Happy Fun Corp
#72 - 2014-08-17 22:44:42 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Gallentean racism, writings to "Exterminate all Caldari", destruction of temples and arhaeological sites on Caldari Prime right


I heard that all Gallenteans have the words "Kill all Caldari" tattooed on some part of their body. Being Gallenteans, you can probably imagine where they put it.

The Provists are the only thing that can save us all from the Gallentean onslaught. All hail Tibus Heth.