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A ship idea that fits with a Mike Azariah post

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Gargep Farrow
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2014-08-17 01:08:12 UTC
The post in the Devblog on Burner missions


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#120 Posted: 2014.08.14 19:27
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Dave Stark wrote:

it's not about "not being bothered" or "not affording" anything.

the demographic for l4 missions is a battleship. the demographic for these is a frigate.
the two are chalk and cheese. that's why it's a dumb implementation of the idea.


I don't know if you run missions, Dave, but when I do I slowly build a stable of ships in that hub so I can run the specifics (Like a cruiser well tanked for the Recon 3/3 L4 mission) and I also keep a fast ship to commute to other things/places. Adding a good frigate or two to that stable will be just fine with me. Is it an extra expense? Yes, but one I am willing to pay for some variety



Mike I agree with you on the whole stable concept and raise you one Noctis for those of us with an OCD type need to loot and salvage most everything. Problem is moving that stable if you end up locking up your local agent is a nightmare. How many round trips should we have to do to run missions?

My idea for you to broach to the Devs is for a combat transport based on the Orca. 25-30k m3 cargo hold for holding ammo, fittings and loot. Ship maintenance bay large enough to fit 1 BS, 1 Noctis, and enough space for a few frigates. No Ore hold or Fleet hold needed. Since the ship wont be used for boosting the typical slot layout should give enough options for tank. Skill bonuses should go towards speed and tank and maybe even combat ability to fight of gank attempts.

To use your words, Is it an extra expense? Yes, but one I am willing to pay for some variety. Well at least a change of scenery.

The floor is now open for accolades, suggestions, criticizms
Mike Azariah
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2014-08-17 17:36:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Mike Azariah
Dammit, don't make me find the ever so excellent concept already proposed and supported by me called the Tugboat. This idea does not just benefit missioneers but also incursion runners who also like to move stables from ranch to ranch.

I suppose gankers would like it as well, just sayin

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edit, link https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=56550&find=unread

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Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#3 - 2014-08-18 00:31:49 UTC
Take a look at the Support Tug thread I posted mate. I'm sure it wouldn't be too far a cry to allow it to have a loaded industrial on board. But that'd be up to CCP.

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Gargep Farrow
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2014-08-18 17:59:37 UTC
Jack Carrigan wrote:
Take a look at the Support Tug thread I posted mate. I'm sure it wouldn't be too far a cry to allow it to have a loaded industrial on board. But that'd be up to CCP.


Cool, so it looks like I am not the only one thinking about this.


As for having a loaded industrial, not sure CCP would go near that. I could easily see a player packing as many fully loaded Miasmos as possible and using the thing to haul ore. Using the same restrictions as the Orca seems more likely.

Quote:

I suppose gankers would like it as well, just sayin


Just having one blinged out incursion runner in the bay will make the thing a freaking loot pinata. Hence the need to give it reasonable tank and maybe light combat capability or people will never use it.

Now for the important question,
Mike, can you sell the idea?
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#5 - 2014-08-18 18:36:26 UTC
Not to put words in Mike's mouth as I can't account for what he says in closed forums, but he supports it. Also, a buddy of mine who helped come up with the idea behind this ship has spoken to other members of the CSM who also liked the concept. Patience and faith will keep this going. If you want to help, pass the thread about it around and help garner it support.

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Gargep Farrow
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2014-08-20 00:16:55 UTC
Jack Carrigan wrote:
Not to put words in Mike's mouth as I can't account for what he says in closed forums,


Based on the tone of his response, I am willing to believe he supports this behind closed doors.

I think that the "Burner mission" concept from CCP opens the door for the idea of a "Tug", considering one of the main complaints against Burners is that most lvl4 mission runners do not always have easy access to a frigate. Now that I have your link, I will happily add it to any posts I make where it would apply.