EVE General Discussion

This is a sandbox game, live with it, there are players different from you.

A. gather large sums of isks and in turn do nothing with it

I use isk all the time. Buying blueprints or ore for building things. My wallet goes up and down and I'm usually happy with about 1bil in the wallet. Sometimes it jumps up to 2bil then a buy some stuff and it goes down to 400mil then alittle later it goes back up to 1bil again. Buying, selling and building things. I usually just mine or mission while waiting for things to be built or sell orders. I usually only mission or mine cause I don't have much else to do that day. Doing missions is a bit like mining as well, with all the minerals you get from the loot. I usually don't even bother mining much these days because of the loot from missions.


Why is it you play EvE if you take no larger roll in the game, (this is not a Y U NO PVP question) you gather large sums of isk but in turn do nothing with it most people have a goal while getting isk be it a new mission ship, a titan or SC, help funding a corp project, funding for playing the markets.

Is there something you do with this isk?

Of course. What makes you think people who aren't as social as you and/or play the game solo don't spend their isk? I do wonder what people do with the isk they make from incursions though. I guess they just spend it on t2 ships and expensive mods.
I don't do incursions. I think they might be interesting. I haven't seriously tried them though.

I don't really feel like joining up with others in a corp. Too easy to steal from others in a corp (so I've heard). I do talk to people in local. Maybe it's just a trust thing. Had bad experiences with corp mates in the past. Couldn't trust them at all. Better to just do things my way.
Also I'm very much used to travelling in lowsec and nullsec now. It doesn't bother me as much as it used to.

I started playing elite and watched my brother play it alot. I got into frontier elite 2 a lot more after that. I think that's why I like EVE. It reminds me of frontier a bit.

Is this the sort of answer you wanted? I might not be the type of person you wanted to ask.

I lived in 0.0 solo for 6 months or so, does that count?

Perfectly viable since most of it is empty most of the time.

However, not something I would recommend for someone who can't put a lot of time in.

You mine alone? With one account or multiple?

Low / Null sec - been there, done it, back in the day.

Now, i'm a 40 yr old in rl with a job and young family. Eve is now my part-time hobby . Yes, i pretty much stick to hi-sec now and grind isk for plex while money is tight over christmas.
But the amount of things to do ingame without having to tie oneself to a megacorp keeps me going quite nicely for the brief respite i get from rl on a daily basis.

One quote i will always live by : (bold / underlined the mainly relevant) Eve faq's

•In EVE you are free to choose your own destiny. You start out as a character from one of four races that inhabit the EVE universe but apart from slightly different starting skills you are free to take your character in any direction you want. You are not restricted by predefined character classes or professions. You can trade to make a living, conduct mining operations, market your fighting skills as a mercenary, camp the spacelanes for profit as a pirate, conduct espionage and infiltration, focus on research and manufacturing, or perform increasingly profitable missions for NPC (non player controlled, run by the EVE system) agents. What you choose to do day by day is up to you. You can play alone, form a corporation (equivalent of clan or guild) with a close group of friends or seek entrance to any of the large player run corporations and alliances already established. The EVE Unviverse and its 5000 unique solar systems are yours to explore and conquer.

How many times are people gonna make threads raging about others not playing this game their way?

Stop it. It's it's asinine.

I'll give a guess since I have played in Null/low/high sec.

1. time
2. sifi experience
3. large game
4. there is risk, even in high, there is risk

I'll bet that most high seccers are just getting by. The 99% They are the background players playing the supporting roles to your null and low sec dramas. "the nerds that open and closes the curtains of your bit part in this EVE Sifi act."

Yet another demonstration of how the gank pipelines and bubble camps have formed a "Great Wall of Carebear" and there are bears on BOTH sides of that wall. I can use a wormhole to get past this wall and have spent weeks in claimed 0.0 systems without seeing anybody else in local.

If only CCP would remove dependency on gates. Give ships the ability to dial in a system to system hyperwarp, "Star Trek/Star Wars style", and the game will become rich with opportunity and PVP. Everybody in 0.0 will get the targets they cry for, and everybody else gets to reach out.

What, nulldwellers won't want to form patrols (read: small gangs) and police their systems? Do they want to hang out in these camps?

Is CCP simply catering to nuillbears while the nullbears, lording it up deep and safe in 0.0, are pointing their fingers at highsec and blaming everything on highsec carebears?

Are there too many nullsec CSMs telling CCP that everything is fine the way it is, while thinking of their moongoo ISK faucets and sanctums and laughing inside? Is it all about crying for more targets, cursing the carebears in highsec, while in the usual form of "wanting your cake and eating it too", they want more people in 0.0 space, but only on their own terms: as renters, cannon fodder, and targets?

To say that we are free to choose our own destiny with this Wall in place is like telling the kids they can go outside, but drawing a 3' circle around them and telling them you will beat them if they leave it.

CCP, set (the majority of) your players free. I have proven that safe passage across The Wall using wormholes makes it possible for a so-called "casual player" to survive in 0.0. The Wall is preventing the game from reaching its potential. Remove that wall, and it's a PVP/chaos/exp(loi/lora)tion bonanza.

Or just keep letting the CSM/0.0 bosses lie to your ear and keep things the way it is as most players will eventually get bored and move on.

1. I couldn't f*cking care

2. Don't f*cking care to try anymore

3. Gate camps. Number 1 and 2, don't f*cking care to try and get passed them. Have wasted too much time (several hours at a time) trying to read maps, Dotlan counts, Pod Kills, pick a destination, get through a gate, and BANG! Hours of time wasted in minutes. Its always 10 minutes or 3 jumps, no matter how many f*cking times I try to avoid people to get passed them it never works. Stupid mechanic , gate camps = zone lines = sitting your ass in 1 spot for hours on end = Hey! Its so 1999 like its EQ all over again. Anyone get any Yaks or FBSS to drop in EVE?

4. Pod killing, SP loss, Loss of time skilling. Number 1. The pod doesn't bother me, its the fact that +attribute implants there. Its the fact, that I pay a monthly subscription based on real world cash to accumulate SP at a real world rate (by the hour) when that rate is measured in months and years to get to the SP cap (which no one will ever get to), and any Joe Chump with an erection can THRUST!! it through my eyesocket to make them feel better. Recap: I don't pay real world money to have real world time set back, because the skilling takes so long already. I don't mind loosing a +3% cap or +3% agi implant because thats like equipment, but a +5 implant drasticly cuts down on training time.

5. Trust. This is the corp issue. Number 1. I learned this quickly, its has no f*cking value. Because EVE lets you do what ever you want to do, there is no f*cking way I am going to let someone failing at LARPing a theif get access to my assets and let them take it. Having spent time accumulating it (time = real world cash for that subscrition) I would rather have it blown away into pixel nothingness then let someone get ahold of the more expensive items and sell it off, to buy PLEX (free game time for them) or buy PVP ships to go lose on a roam. I don't fit expensive ships (Top 10 rules of EVE), so the best you might get is 1 or 2 semi-expensive mods but the rest...will go poof with an additional 1/3 the hull cost to what I loose in gank ships used against it (thank you insurance fix, but an additional 50m charge on top for GCC being initiated would be a great way of making EVE more harsh to the gankers and gankee )

Aside from it, there is nothing lowsec or nullsec offers me I can't get in highsec with better options: Better access to markets, no gate camps, source of income from mission bounties and discount LP coupons for faction ammo, train faster with less stress of losing implants (now flying a thick ass buffer shuttle, thanks CCP for a stupid "improvement" for killmails), no need to goosestep to someone else's orders, an NPC chat channel which is way more interesting then spamming Dscan. Mainly, I like to casually play games and there is way too much stress over to staying alive for a video game, which FSS is a f*cking video game and not something to be serious over.

No it doesn't.