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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#21 - 2014-08-16 02:13:56 UTC
Angeal MacNova wrote:
Serene Repose wrote:
"Hurry up and wait" achieves new meaning with EVE, probably because the "people in charge" just purely suck at organization. Also, your "team mates" don't generally understand what being a team mate means.



You just summed up life in the military.




Absolute boredom punctuated by total madness

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Netan MalDoran
Cathedral.
Shadow Cartel
#22 - 2014-08-16 16:06:01 UTC
I was in the same position as you a month ago...

I was in the CFC alliance in null but most of the time I was logging in to run ops, I was losing ISK cause I didn't have time to make cash and do the required stuff, plus I don't have that much time to dedicate to the game.

So, I left and went into FW space but (So far) didn't join FW, I build my own PvP ships and go solo PvP for fun, and do explo for ISK.

An idea if you don't like 100% solo if finding a small PvP corp in lowsec and just have casual fun!

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Falcon's truth
Colten Tokila
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#23 - 2014-08-16 17:43:31 UTC
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=361308

That post is pretty much the same type of troll post this actually is ,but did it much much better
Qalix
Long Jump.
#24 - 2014-08-16 17:45:29 UTC
Everything about EVE is basically a hassle. Where you been?
Verlyn
Kill'em all. Let Bob sort'em out.
Ushra'Khan
#25 - 2014-08-16 18:19:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Verlyn
Otuk Andven wrote:
I'm in a bit of a funk at present. I find pvp interesting even though I'm terrible at it but I find myself doing it less and less. Why? Because its such a hassle to do.

I'm in a null sec coalition so generally you have to wait to ops (at times that aren't very convenient to you) travel over 50 jumps and deal with jump clone timers. Bankrupt yourself getting a useable ship for the fleet (often tweaking official doctrines to because you don't have t2 guns) then wait for 5 minutes before moving off, only to die in 15 minutes and get podded back those 50 jumps without getting on any KMs.

I mean when there is a neut in the pocket I'm ready and willing to jump into a HD ship and take them on but if its an op my general reaction is do I have to? Because I have to go though all of that while I could be doing something productive in the same time. Or at the very least checking my PI.

Does anyone else find themselves in the same situation?


Like the others said before me, you can always make an alt and then join my small and casual corp that lives out in FW space, we're not affiliated so we get more targets, it's fun.

PM me or make a post in the recruitment thread.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=366531&find=unread

And that goes for anyone else interested in this kind of corp.
Rabe Raptor
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#26 - 2014-08-16 19:10:48 UTC
Pick up a catalyst and follow us. We PvP all day every day and have a great time.

Together we can make Highsec a better place! www.lawofhighsec.com

Read it, share it, learn it, quote it, memorize it,  live it, breathe it!
Othran
Route One
#27 - 2014-08-16 19:17:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Othran
I'm no expert by any means but I go back a fair bit on characters other than this one.

Sov warfare - and by this I mean the whole sov environment - is primarily about isk.

Its generally not a good environment (IME) for people who want to undock & have some PvP fun.

OP needs to have a rethink - there are other ways to have PvP fun.

Edit - oh & I hear you about single neutrals paralysing the whole place when a "FC" isn't on. I remember that only too well - dock up dock up the sky is falling :D

Even if you did go kill the neut you caught crap for it from probably your own CEO and whoever else figured they were in charge at the time.

Anyway there are other options - like the alt corps mentioned which IME are much more fun than the sov corp.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#28 - 2014-08-16 19:30:18 UTC
3 words:

NPSI public fleets



Nuff said.

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Samwise Everquest
Plus 10 NV
#29 - 2014-08-17 00:46:00 UTC
Didn't read most of the thread but in my opinion if you want PvP, goto LowSec. Specifically the FW systems. You don't even have to enlist to join in on the fun. When I lived in Lowsec, there was always a fight a jump or two away if you are willing to fly ships people will/want to fight.

Pras Phil.
Tweek Etimua
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2014-08-17 05:26:32 UTC
Wacktopia wrote:
EVE had all sorts of different groups, playing all kinds of PVP.

A change is as good as the rest...

If you have a steady income RvB isnt bad. Depending on the side you join Faction warfare is decent.
Otuk Andven
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#31 - 2014-08-17 07:45:17 UTC
Othran wrote:
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Edit - oh & I hear you about single neutrals paralysing the whole place when a "FC" isn't on. I remember that only too well - dock up dock up the sky is falling :D

Even if you did go kill the neut you caught crap for it from probably your own CEO and whoever else figured they were in charge at the time.

Anyway there are other options - like the alt corps mentioned which IME are much more fun than the sov corp.


strictly speaking our corp did run a home defence force in our old base, but when we move to the new alliance we got rid of them to reduce transit costs. Problem is things have been so complicated that we haven't yet got anything ready yet. Local market is a mess so whatever we build is going to have to be produced ourselves.
Torneach Structor
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#32 - 2014-08-17 08:12:44 UTC
Small gang warfare is where it's at.

Being in a corp that specializes in that is so very fun, especially when you get to know your corpmates.
Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#33 - 2014-08-17 09:20:29 UTC
J'Poll wrote:
3 words:

NPSI public fleets



Nuff said.


This

I made my own little NPSI fleet last night and despite us being a little ragtag fleet of max 8 people whom have never flown together and we had 1 person who never ever pvped before. We still managed to kill more than our worth.

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#34 - 2014-08-17 17:54:47 UTC
Mizhir wrote:
J'Poll wrote:
3 words:

NPSI public fleets



Nuff said.


This

I made my own little NPSI fleet last night and despite us being a little ragtag fleet of max 8 people whom have never flown together and we had 1 person who never ever pvped before. We still managed to kill more than our worth.

So... your catalysts ganked a hulk?

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Ocih
Space Mermaids
#35 - 2014-08-18 00:12:10 UTC
You have found the only PvP left in EVE.

Welcome to GD
Joshua Milton Blahyi
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#36 - 2014-08-18 00:37:43 UTC
If you are going to head to FW space, bring your own booster alt with you.

And some friends. The blobs are not as big as in null, but they are everywhere.

On the plus, as long as you don't use anything bigger than a frig, getting blobbed is painless, and you can laugh at the gfs the scrubs post in local after.

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#37 - 2014-08-18 01:43:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
First things first, it sounds like you need a reliable source of income... and if your alliance has frequent OPs that make it difficult to make your ISK in their territory on your main consider an alt that is devoted to earning ISK elsewhere.

I would not suggest making a habit of ignoring call to arms to farm ISK on your main however, as it will be viewed as not being willing to make the necessary commitment to defense to earn access to your organizations territorial resources.

Unless you are simply tired of your organization, in which case many of the suggestions in this thread are worthy.

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Carmen Electra
AlcoDOTTE
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#38 - 2014-08-18 02:34:56 UTC
Otuk Andven wrote:
50 jumps


You're doing it wrong.

You'll need to either learn to bear in null or have 2 accounts or at least characters.

Bacon makes us stronger
Renegade Heart
Doomheim
#39 - 2014-08-18 04:11:32 UTC
Otuk Andven wrote:
if its an op my general reaction is do I have to? Because I have to go though all of that while I could be doing something productive in the same time. Or at the very least checking my PI.

Does anyone else find themselves in the same situation?


I personally find stuff like PI and ratting to be really boring, and a waste of my life.

I'd rather have fun, and blowing stuff up is fun for me Smile
Samuel Wess
Doomheim
#40 - 2014-08-18 04:33:52 UTC
There is no reason to pvp anymore at least in NPC null. People log in and ask is there any fight, and the reply is no.
There is no competition over resources since all resources got either removed (random belts spawns), either made infinite (signatures, mission agents), made useless (belt ratting, mining) , made inaccessible for small entities (moons, sov).

Game state atm is make isk, kill ocasional traveler and watch movies. Consentual PVP without a reason makes no sense
could as well play counter strike.

Walk into the club like "What up? I got a big cockpit!"
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