Skill Discussions

a general 'thank you' to chribba. eveboard is equally awesome and affordable, and so are your other services.

I think mine needs a kick:

Time remaining -3d 12h 52m 40s (skill finished)

Hi Chribba

Any eta on when the Certificate category's will be removed from EB?
Are they still part of the global rank calculation? or has that been updated now?

Currently we have 30? (35 with certs) category's included in the global rank...

Most SP
Number of Skills
Skills @ Lvl's 3, 4, and 5
Average Sp per skill
22 Skill group Catagory's
Most ISK
Highest Skill Value

Is this still correct?

Many Thanks

Is the penalty for a no data category a fixed value or is it variable depending on other factors.

I recall reading that the penalty was multiplied by the # of no data ranks and the # of players ranked in the category for which you have no data.

I ask because I'm keeping a spread sheet of my progress in the ranks and some of the math does not add up.

for example if I add up my total score and then divide it by the 35 category's there is a difference of approx. 11,000 points compared to taking my global score (as displayed by EB) and * it by 35.

Whereas for Towaoc the difference is only around 4,000 pts.

As you say, we both have the same 5 no data category's, so I'm curious where the difference in penalty is coming from.

Not looking to get anything changed on EB, just trying to figure out where my math may be going wrong.

Atm I think I enjoy playing EB online more than EVE Online

Anyways many thanks

The people who re-roll still have daily online averages over 24 hours.

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eveboard is not updating my info. Error message - "Automatic API Update disabled, Reason: Illegal page request! Please verify the access granted by the key you are using!"

Page: http://eveboard.com/pilot/Dr_Blindless

Workaround....

If when trying to view your character on Eveboard you get the message "Automatic API Update disabled, Reason: Illegal page request! Please verify the access granted by the key you are using!" you can simply create a new API key to use instead. Just copy/paste in the new key with the same settings etc, and save, job done.

This has happened to me a couple of times in the past few months, and doing this resolved the issue right away

Remap : P/W !

(stated with emphasis, as might be done for a thrilling move in a world-class chess match)

I'm long overdue to give some attention to Gunnery and Missile skills.

On a somewhat more interesting note, to follow some discussion above, I did a little reverse engineering of the null category penalty points for the top four characters in global ranking. There are minor differences:

Batack:

Null categories: 6 (certs plus level 3 skills)
Rank points per null category: 2284.60

Claire:

Null categories: 5 (certificates)
Rank points per null category: 2358.71

Viggen:

Null categories: 6 (certs plus level 3 skills)
Rank points per null category: 2129.95

Myself:

Null categories: 5 (certificates)
Rank points per null category: 2041.40

So, some variability from character to character, and also as the database grows. For comparison, the rank points per null category fell into a 1700 to 1800 point range about a year ago when I last looked.

Just a bit of data, no real conclusions other than that it's a pretty big penalty, one that I'm weighing carefully as I consider taking my remaining level 3 skills to level 4.

It would seem that the lower you are in the ranking, the greater the penalty levied on you for null category's.

I'm currently ranked #48th with a penalty of approx. 4,250 per null category.

Amateratsu:

Null categories: 5 (certificates)
Rank points per null category: 4,250

This will only get worse as I continue to raise all my level 3 and below skills.

Unfortunately the penalty is a nessasary evil to keep younger players with dozens of null data category's from jumping to the top of the ranks due to low skillpoints.

Tho when Chribba does get round to removing the certificate category's the bulk of the penalty should be eliminated.

Activated, and no think this is when CCP switches off their database or something then I rather be safe than sorry and disabled invalid keys directly. You can activate it manually by logging on with your api details and press save though.

Maybe I'll see if I should implement a retry state before disable the key though.

/c