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Just wondering what the maximum value most freighter pilots can haul before suicide gankers take interest in them?

Not really looking to be on the edge, some "wiggle room" would be nice.

How about max freighter TANK with command ship(s) boosts....maybe even rep support??

How about studying "when" all the ganks happen?

How about NOT using the same lame route as everyone else?

How about an insta warp to out of Jita 4/4???

Just flew a pig with over 5 BILLION worth of stuff thru the Uedama gauntlet...with 300k+ ehp and rep support.

Nobody even noticed me....do it all the time, NEVER been ganked.

Tank out the freighter and keep everything within it under 1B and you should hopefully be fine.

1) Create 1-2 alts on 2 alternative accounts.
2) Attack "something" at the in/out gates of the 0.5-0.7 sec system you want to pass by safely, 5-10 seconds before you jump in. So concord comes to kill your toons.
3) Enter the just "concorded" system and fly safely to the next gate.

Freighters without wardec are ganked in 0.5-0.7 systems, since otherwise u simply need to much ships and can't use cheap catas. U simply "pull" concord to the in/out gates, which is the opposite the gankers will do before.

I've heard about this - could you describe it exactly? The main thing I don't understand is: How can the freighter warped if it is webbed and has no warp cores?

Thanks.

Entering warp requires 75% of max velocity. Webifiers lower the maximum velocity.

If you are already above the warp threshold velocity before web(s) are applied, you will instantly enter warp when web(s) are applied.

Stasis Webifier II: -60% max velocity

Web 0: 75% of max velocity to warp
Web 1: 75% * (1 - 60% web * 1.0 stacking penalty) = 30% of pre-web max velocity to warp
Web 2: 30% * (1 - 60% web * 0.869119980800 stacking penalty) = 14.35% of pre-web max velocity to warp
Web 3: 14.35% * (1 - 60% web * 0.57058314351 stacking penalty) = 9.44% of pre-web max velocity to warp
Web 4: 9.44% * (1 - 60% web * 0.282955154023 stacking penalty) = 7.8% of pre-web max velocity to warp

Example: Accelerate to 15% of max velocity, then apply double webs, and the ship will instantly enter warp.
[Easy to calculate 15% = (max velocity / 10) plus half of that]

I like to use a Minmatar Hyena Electronic Attack frigate, because of the 40% per Electronic Attack Ships skill level web-range bonus, because inter-regional stargates between regions are quite large [inter-regional > inter-constellation > intra-constellation]. Web-strength bonuses are less important IMHO. Any fast frigate with a MWD will do though.

One can also safely overheat the webs for more range, as they only run for one cycle anyway.

WARNING: Webbing earns a weapons flag on the webbing pilot, preventing jumping & docking for 1 minute. It also causes both pilots to gain a PvP flag, preventing logout in space for 15 minutes. CONCORD will respond to aggression on non-legal targets; both pilots must be in same player corp, or use the duel mechanism.

Tip: cyno ships often have webs when jumping to systems without stations. Example: Jump to cyno beacon 200 km from POS [make sure no neutrals or hostiles in local], then web and warp to safety of POS. Still more dangerous than jumping to a station and docking.

Mine is simpler: I ask myself, "would I gank this?"

You need to understand why people are ganking, then you can answer what safe thresholds might be.

There's 4 reasons people gank haulers.


1) Profit through plunder
2) Disruption of enemy logisiticians
3) Extortion
4) For the lulz


If your ganker falls into group 1, 600m in an anti-tanked or 1200m in a tanked freighter is reasonable.
If you want to avoid group 2, don't carry alliance supplies. Be suspicious of parcels that are dozens of one ship, or thousands of the same module.
If you want to avoid group 3, pay them off.
There's noone really in group 4 - freighter ganking takes too much effort to do purely for the lulz.