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I need someone dead.

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Paranoid Loyd
#41 - 2014-08-14 21:21:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Xanato Kaso wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Most likely a trap, use caution.


Thats where you guys can come in eh?


I would send Logi support assuming you could make it happen when I am on, but Amar is too far from my AOO, sorry. If you get the fight closer to Hek and between 2:30 & 7 EVE time, let me know.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Captain Soju
Failed Diplomacy
#42 - 2014-08-15 12:02:55 UTC
@OP Just a heads up that the guy who killed you could have read this post and offered to help you pay him a hefty sum to kill his main. That or he could lure you into taking your money and killing you again. The ONLY way you will know its legit is if you do it yourself. Trust no one, especially the people who are offering in game help.

My advice:
- Skill up to something stealthy that packs a punch.
- Find a locator agent and track that sucker down. Check killmails to see what he flies. Find the systems he likes hanging around in.
- Pay him a visit and blow his brains out.
- Send him an evemail thanking him for the experience.

I know that's what i'm doing.
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#43 - 2014-08-15 13:59:23 UTC
Captain Soju wrote:
@OP Just a heads up that the guy who killed you could have read this post and offered to help you pay him a hefty sum to kill his main. That or he could lure you into taking your money and killing you again. The ONLY way you will know its legit is if you do it yourself. Trust no one, especially the people who are offering in game help.

My advice:
- Skill up to something stealthy that packs a punch.
- Find a locator agent and track that sucker down. Check killmails to see what he flies. Find the systems he likes hanging around in.
- Pay him a visit and blow his brains out.
- Send him an evemail thanking him for the experience.

I know that's what i'm doing.


Do you even lift, brah?

My offer to help the OP was not one of "lets fleet up in lowsec" so I can "teach you". There are many, many things that should just be EXPLAINED to someone learning the ropes of PVP. Transversal. Explosion velocity. Signiture radius effects on weapons and tracking. MAKING SURE YOUR DAMAGE CONTROL IS ON, ect. Many, many more.

New players will be the lifeblood of this game. If we expect it to keep on trucking, than as a community (albeit a dysfunctional one), it is our job to ensure they enter EvE knowing the ropes, knowing the risks, and guide them to player interaction and not grinding rocks in a belt.

So yes, never trust anyone in EvE is a great mantra to live by, but we all need a mentor. ****, even the Sith trained recruits. (Even if to be killed by them later!)

Any advice you receive from myself or the others whom have posted here will be legit. It wont be given out in "duel me" format, but rather an explanation of game mechanics.

Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment

Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#44 - 2014-08-15 14:16:45 UTC
This ^
Of course if you bother to read C&P on a regular basis you will also get to know who the regulars are.
OP I'd take Leto's offer for instruction if I were you. He knows stuff. The notion that the criminal element of EVE is comprised solely of basement dwelling sociopaths is pretty much flawed. For the most part folks here will respect newbros who come in search of actual advice or help. It's the spunkmonkeys who come in sperging with their pants on their heads that draw fire upon themselves.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.

Xanato Kaso
Frozen Flames
#45 - 2014-08-15 18:01:07 UTC
The one thing I don't like about this game is that PVP can be forced upon you without consent, I know its the driving motive for about 90% of the playerbase and the economy, and the whole purpose of the game. I dont think there is any game that has that fuction. I enjoy some pvp, I just typically dont like doing it until I am prepared, most games allow you to do PVP on your own timeframe. I am looking forward to some pvp lessons. I just wish that the thing i play the game for (Mining) wast taken away from me. My buddies and i have a phrase. 'Douchebaggery for the sake of Douchebaggery'. It seems some peope live off the pain and suffering of others. I can understand why they blew my freighter. I had a lot of cargo, it was a business decision. But the thing I cant comprehend is why people want to make your life a living hell and make the game a miserable place for you, just because they can do it.

I have had a few frig fights, and find them very entertaining. My blood rushes, its exhilerating. Never killed anyone though doing it. I was going to buy every T1 Frigate bpo and my corp was going to have a Frigate Fight Night. Each corp member would pick a frigate and I was going to make them 5. They fit it any way they want, but only T1 items, no meta 4 or T2. Then we were going to have some games, a battle royal, and a few team fights. But this wardec has cost us some money and set us back at least a week from being able to make this happen.

I was also going to make a death race. Set out some secure cargo containers as markers and fly around the system where you can shoot people on your way.
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#46 - 2014-08-15 18:27:57 UTC
The thing that makes EvE its own category is precisely the point that PVP is able to be forced upon you at any time.

The key is to always be prepared. Always be willing to lose what you are flying. Never undock in anything you dont want to, -or cannot afford - to lose.

You stand on the thin line between carebear and becoming a pvp pilot.

Tell me, does running a level 4 mission get your blood pumping the way that a fight to the death with a real target does? I know the feeling you describe, and I remember it well. The reason you get that while playing this game is that your losses are GONE forever. Your choices in this game have the potential to influence THOUSANDS (look at James 315...)

By all means, do what you wish to, but never become one of those players who wish the game to be nerfed based upon your unwillingness to fight.

Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment

Xanato Kaso
Frozen Flames
#47 - 2014-08-15 20:17:49 UTC
Leto Thule wrote:
The thing that makes EvE its own category is precisely the point that PVP is able to be forced upon you at any time.

The key is to always be prepared. Always be willing to lose what you are flying. Never undock in anything you dont want to, -or cannot afford - to lose.

You stand on the thin line between carebear and becoming a pvp pilot.

Tell me, does running a level 4 mission get your blood pumping the way that a fight to the death with a real target does? I know the feeling you describe, and I remember it well. The reason you get that while playing this game is that your losses are GONE forever. Your choices in this game have the potential to influence THOUSANDS (look at James 315...)

By all means, do what you wish to, but never become one of those players who wish the game to be nerfed based upon your unwillingness to fight.



I used to PK when I played runescape. I LOVED pking, I had so many various pking accounts. That adrenaline rush when you fight someone is fun, my whole body starts shivering like its freezing even though it isnt. In runescape, when you die, you lose your stuff (except for 3 items) it was not a carebear pvp like WoW. I also used to play a game called Starport: Galactic Empires, a space mmo where you could build on planets and fight in space. I was one of the top 1v1 Duelests on my server. I am not afraid of pvp, I enjoy PvP. I am just not ready for EVE PvP.
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#48 - 2014-08-15 20:27:36 UTC
Xanato Kaso wrote:
I LOVED pking,


Lol, I havent heard that term since Diablo 1 on battle.net.

Well, good luck. My offer stands.

Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment

Xanato Kaso
Frozen Flames
#49 - 2014-08-15 20:58:33 UTC
Leto Thule wrote:
Xanato Kaso wrote:
I LOVED pking,


Lol, I havent heard that term since Diablo 1 on battle.net.

Well, good luck. My offer stands.


Once I can get my mining operations running again and have my corp all settled due to the upset from the wardec I will send you a message and take you up on your offer.
Mike Adoulin
Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club
#50 - 2014-08-16 01:17:51 UTC
Accept his wardec.

Put all your guys in Derpfrigs (the Mighty Derptron is the classic example, but now there are others).

Roll him.

If you welp it (and lets be honest, you probably will), rinse, recycle, and repeat.

It's cheap, its fun, and your corpies will learn lots of stuff.

Also, if you manage to kill a blingy boat with your derpfrig fleet, the tears will flow. Count on this...;)

Bear


Everything in EVE is a trap.

And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)

You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.

Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.

Xanato Kaso
Frozen Flames
#51 - 2014-08-16 04:37:27 UTC
Mike Adoulin wrote:
Accept his wardec.

Put all your guys in Derpfrigs (the Mighty Derptron is the classic example, but now there are others).

Roll him.

If you welp it (and lets be honest, you probably will), rinse, recycle, and repeat.

It's cheap, its fun, and your corpies will learn lots of stuff.

Also, if you manage to kill a blingy boat with your derpfrig fleet, the tears will flow. Count on this...;)

Bear





What is a mighty derptron?
Paranoid Loyd
#52 - 2014-08-16 06:42:31 UTC
Derptron

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Xanato Kaso
Frozen Flames
#53 - 2014-08-16 13:26:27 UTC
So check this out. The guy sends me a message and we start talking. Long story short, he pays me the money for my ship and implants and apologizes for podding me after we had agreed no podding. So I agree to fight him again. He is now providing the ships for me and we fight, I almost destroyed his loki in my Apoc!!! I ran out of cap because I forgot to get a cap booster. We are doing frigate fights, cruiser fights. I am having a lot of fun and he pays for my ships. I am actually making money off of this because I also get insurance money from ccp.
Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#54 - 2014-08-16 13:35:54 UTC
Sounds like you are now tasting the more entertaining bits of EVE. Good deal. I hope the hook sinks deep and you have a long future of dying in fires and exploding enemy ships and loving every minute of it. I do recommend learning from an experienced mentor as they may be able to teach you some nuances to EVE PVP that you wont likely discover on your own.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.

Tengu Grib
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#55 - 2014-08-16 16:57:08 UTC
Xanato Kaso wrote:
So check this out. The guy sends me a message and we start talking. Long story short, he pays me the money for my ship and implants and apologizes for podding me after we had agreed no podding. So I agree to fight him again. He is now providing the ships for me and we fight, I almost destroyed his loki in my Apoc!!! I ran out of cap because I forgot to get a cap booster. We are doing frigate fights, cruiser fights. I am having a lot of fun and he pays for my ships. I am actually making money off of this because I also get insurance money from ccp.

Sounds like you found a bored rich guy who is a little lonely. Learn as muchfrom it as you can, that is a truly unique opportunity.

Rabble Rabble Rabble

Praise James, Supreme Protector of High Sec.

Paranoid Loyd
#56 - 2014-08-16 17:23:04 UTC
Tengu Grib wrote:
Xanato Kaso wrote:
So check this out. The guy sends me a message and we start talking. Long story short, he pays me the money for my ship and implants and apologizes for podding me after we had agreed no podding. So I agree to fight him again. He is now providing the ships for me and we fight, I almost destroyed his loki in my Apoc!!! I ran out of cap because I forgot to get a cap booster. We are doing frigate fights, cruiser fights. I am having a lot of fun and he pays for my ships. I am actually making money off of this because I also get insurance money from ccp.

Sounds like you found a bored rich guy who is a little lonely. Learn as muchfrom it as you can, that is a truly unique opportunity.


Agreed, he is probably not much different from us. If you demonstrate the desire to fight back and want to actually play the game, you get helped (as long as you dont act like an idiot). Stick your head in the sand and try to hide and you get hunted into corporation collapse or simply not logging in at all.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Savnire Jacitu
Undead Retirement Crypt
#57 - 2014-08-17 01:45:19 UTC
Interesting. I know this man. I've fought with him.


I could do this job, but turning on a friend, that'll could cost you.

cpt Varox
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#58 - 2014-08-20 09:01:07 UTC  |  Edited by: cpt Varox
Xanato Kaso wrote:
So check this out. The guy sends me a message and we start talking. Long story short, he pays me the money for my ship and implants and apologizes for podding me after we had agreed no podding. So I agree to fight him again. He is now providing the ships for me and we fight, I almost destroyed his loki in my Apoc!!! I ran out of cap because I forgot to get a cap booster. We are doing frigate fights, cruiser fights. I am having a lot of fun and he pays for my ships. I am actually making money off of this because I also get insurance money from ccp.



HEH, he probably heard Cannibal was interested . :D and he might be a bit scared. OR he saw the light
Xanato Kaso
Frozen Flames
#59 - 2014-08-20 09:47:16 UTC
I no longer want him dead. Well I do, but it shall be by my own hands. We now fight each other on the nearly daily basis. He provides the isk for me to buy ships and fit them. I am having loads of fun but am extremely frustraded because every time i get close to killing him he has something that just stops me dead in the water. And the 1 time I was about to win my computer froze and i couldnt click my cap booster so i died.
I am however looking to take those pvp lesson sthat were offered. 1v1 fighting is proving to be quite a bit of fun and soon as I have the bpos I plan to start producing my own ships to throw into the fray because its fun. And I am learning the value of good fitting skills and why officer and deadspace loot is so valuable. Doing missions fitting was never a big deal, anything besides T2 was just icing on a cake, but in pvp 1-2 pg/cpu makes a huge difference. Today was short by .1 PG. and I had to change my fit completely as a result.

I am learning so much bashing my head against this wall and it is enjoyable but some structured teachings could be of great value.
Tengu Grib
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#60 - 2014-08-20 16:27:20 UTC
Xanato Kaso wrote:
I no longer want him dead. Well I do, but it shall be by my own hands. We now fight each other on the nearly daily basis. He provides the isk for me to buy ships and fit them. I am having loads of fun but am extremely frustraded because every time i get close to killing him he has something that just stops me dead in the water. And the 1 time I was about to win my computer froze and i couldnt click my cap booster so i died.
I am however looking to take those pvp lesson sthat were offered. 1v1 fighting is proving to be quite a bit of fun and soon as I have the bpos I plan to start producing my own ships to throw into the fray because its fun. And I am learning the value of good fitting skills and why officer and deadspace loot is so valuable. Doing missions fitting was never a big deal, anything besides T2 was just icing on a cake, but in pvp 1-2 pg/cpu makes a huge difference. Today was short by .1 PG. and I had to change my fit completely as a result.

I am learning so much bashing my head against this wall and it is enjoyable but some structured teachings could be of great value.


Just from reading that one post, you already know more about Eve than most people who have been playing x5 longer than you. You'd probably beat me in a 1v1 (I'm awful). If you'd like to test that theory, hit me up with a mail in game. You could probably talk me into providing you a combat ship to fight me in. Who knows, maybe I can give you some tips you can use to turn the tables on your mentor.

Rabble Rabble Rabble

Praise James, Supreme Protector of High Sec.