Wormholes

Agreed

There is a strong smell of WH carebears on that thread....

WH should stay way more dangerous that null sec to exploit.
Have gas site show up on d-scan too would ensure that and complete the (good) changes already done.

I do not mine, I have in the past when a new toon and I would prefer to dip my privates in battery acid rather than mine.

Just thought I would share that with you.





Seriously though there is a vast difference between Risk and playing the Victim.

That is the only role a Miner can have in Wormhole space with mining sites broadcast throughout the system in clear. (anomalies)
Oh and bait.

So where have all the miners gone? long time no see.

I would like the chance to use my skills and surprise them with my Probes and throbbing Blasters. (damn battery acid)

So can we have some miners to shoot at once again please?

Because whilst there is a belief that they are willing to pay good money to be treated like a tethered goat waiting to be violated with heavy weapons, we will never see them again.

A old, well accepted rule in wormhole space, was that one should NEVER be able to warp directly to a player, without Someone, at some time, having dropped probes, even if only for a moment.

But that seems to got forgotten somewhere.

Maybe CCP never actually intended it, Either way, There was a VERY good reason for it, and It worked beautifully, and now we see the results of it being ignored.

The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.

Fozzie just said at the townhall meeting that mining activity hasn't actually gone back significantly due to them sites not being scannable anymore. I don't believe this is going to happen considering that for the sake of consistency mining sites in empire space would have to be made scannable again as well.

Right now, mining is no more dangerous than running combat sites. It's actually far less risky in that you don't really need an expensive ship and you have an easier time scanning for incoming ships since you're not really doing anything else. And if you're (semi-)AFKing it, you're dead meat anyway.

IFF what Fozzie claims is true, it might as well stay this way imho.

Yeah, "fighting back" in a 4 billion ISK PvE boat vs losing a 30 million ISK barge....

I mine and I hunt down miners. I personally think everything in WH should be scan-able. The hole idea behind WH's is they are uncharted space.

I feel the system is unbalanced in a way. I hunter can do a drive by in less than 5 min. He just has to jump in warp to all the ore sites and move out. To mine safely it takes 1 Miner at least + 1 pilot to watch each hole. To hunt it really only takes 1 maybe two if you have a scout and a BC or whatever.

Ill survive either way but I would prefer a home-field advantage.

+1

Last time I mined in a WH was when I was a 2 week old noob who could do nothing but sit in a probe cloaked at a wormhole or mine in his trusty venture for ABC's.

Now mostly try pvp and pve when isk gets low.

I have yet to encounter any mining vessels in W-space in my year in the game besides HiSec nubs in ventures or the very very rare "Unicorn" retriever from HS (Like Once).

I still mine gas in WH's because get a little security with the watching for probes, cheap ship, and +2 warp stab. Hell, sometimes I even wait until they decloak on me before leaving.

I agree with returning the grav sites to scan downs. While at it also consider making the number/size of asteroids smaller as the current volume of minerals is far more than most teams can digest and frankly there is some satisfaction in completing a site. Also please consider adding high quality ores, ice, or some other item to sweeten the pot as the risk currently out weighs the gain by such a great degree that few would embrace wspace mining. Anything to make ships actually leave the pos is appreciated.

Finally a static belt or two in each system would be most welcome if only as a place to bait or fight. If anyone is crazy enough to mine where they can be easily found and warped to they deserve whatever rocks they can blast.

please please please!!
+1

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You could even kill anoms make it ALL scan downs. It's uncharted space make it fun again please.