Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Its role is a support battleship for roaming gangs.

Any chance we could get a buff to powergrid?

I feel this ship is a little low on grid and has too much CPU. Would happily swap a bit of CPU for some PG. Say -100 CPU for +1000 PG?

romete loot and hack? +1, would solidify its role.

but it still cant survive sleeper sites because everything scrams, webs and neuts - the neuts being the problem. it does not have the capacitor to really tank anything while it hacks, even if it can microjump away from a site to escape..

Well since the sisters of eve have many offices in nullsec the primary nerf is done to low/nullsec mission running. Now I see two explanations: the devs either don't remember that they've made grindy SOE facilities (like the sanctuary, you have to start with lvl 1 distribution to make your way to lvl 4s without having any lvl 3s) in pure blind or they deliberately want to nerf missionning even further. If it's the first option then it's weird, if it's the second one at least they could give us the reason why they don't lower the cost of the SOE ships in the LP store too. If the devs think mission running is too rewarding even in low/nullsec then at least i'd like to hear why.

The Nestor is an interesting ship, It is one where people really want it to find a role, but instead everyone loves to hate it.

That is really Sad.

In my mind the problem is, not so much that the individual features are not nice or handy,

It is more that with so many features, if it was able to do them all well, the cry of OVERPOWERED would be terrifying to behold.

So it ends up being second best at everything.

I suggest, that the ship would be well served, to go back to first principals, strip everything out, and bring out the anoikis Nestor.

Let the discovered chips go to building this, and update the existing blueprints. Just add a new component from wormhole space to operate them.

The difference?

Let this ship be designed for a highly focused role, the minimum of features, but absolutely suited for a wormhole environment and absolutely useless In Kspace, or as currently Designed if the concept below applies.

We all understand that abilities like a covert Ops Cloak, Greater capacitor, the ability to repair shield and armor, or variable mass, would create a great Imbalance in Known space, but would be of great Value in wormhole space. That ensures that these cannot exist under normal circumstances on the same ship.

A single Anoikis T3 subsystem, rig or module, that only operated in wormhole effects to bring it to life, would be my recommendation. Possibly the first T3 Hybrid ship. This Subsystem Like any T3 completely reconfigures the Ship.

So The two options could be decided through a T3 subsystem. One for the Current design, One for the Specialist wormhole design that needs the presence of Wormhole system effects to power up it's specialist features.

Then it can be powerful and desired,and get the features it needs, without wrecking K-space by being overpowered there and engendering such fear that Null players would demand it's nerfing into oblivion. It then would also not affect issues like blops rebalancing or balancing against other KSpace ships in Kspace in this configuration.

The loss of the nestor to Kspace however would not be a great sacrifice if it gained an exciting role elsewhere, as it is not exactly being snapped up by people now, but the option for it to continue in it's limited role with the appropriate KS subsystem could remain unchanged.

This concept, could also be a tool, to allow the differences between Known Space and Wormhole space to increase where desired, rather than trying to always balance the two, which is becoming increasingly hard, as they diverge.

I thought it was because he only flew megas and when cfc made a mega fleet he got the honour of having the concept named after him. Unless he has alts that fly other ships... his exeriance on everything else would be limited.

Though tbh when was the last time one saw a roaming battleship gang? Unless you're talking about titan bridge hot drops... but at that point just use triage carriers as they cost less.

Personally the nestor would gain utility if it could traverse threw a covert ops cyno as thats a thing carriers cant do.

Imo I would design the nestor around "assistance" and drop all damage based rolls. Give it the ability to fit a triage mod... that would give it great utility in areas one does not have a carrier to use. Such as low level wh space high sec and covert drops.

People don't roam with nightmares either, doesn't mean they cant.

The same group have other doctrine called f#&!@ fleet.. so.. not exactly as if this was a nobel prize.

Not with that attitude. Honestly the negative nancies around here want this ship to fail and will ignore anything that goes against their opinion.

It does match a battle cruiser for base warp speed. a couple ascendencies and you hit cruiser warp speed without sacrficing anything on the fit itself.

This said, it has several roles which can't all be used at the same time without making most of them meh. Its a lower mass, longer ranged RR domi, for WHs. its a scan ship that doesn't have to refit to run any site type in high/low and can still fit scan mods in the mids. Its a scan ship that can blap any other scan ship out of it's site while still running the site. Its a ship that can tank a ghost site explosion, the rats that spawn afterwards and still carry all the loot and have scan mods fitted. Its a RR platform for incursions and other size limited activities. Its a swiss army knife, but it isn't the absolute best at any of those things. Its about as close as the t3 should be to mastering multiple roles simultaneously, but without the insane customization of those ships.