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Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#1 - 2014-08-14 18:18:55 UTC
The current nerf to reprocessing mission loot really sucks. Its bad enough that I have to make less money, but now I have to spend more time clicking several hundred times every time I turn in mission loot. I cant mass reprocess unless I want to lose all kinds of ISK, so I have to sell. 500 items at a time.

I'm not going to ask if its possible, because i know it is. If WoW can do it, we can do it. So lets get a "mass sell to buy orders" function set up within the game.

internet spaceships

are serious business sir.

and don't forget it
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#2 - 2014-08-14 19:55:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Alvatore DiMarco
"Mass sell to buy orders" will lose you just as much money as reprocessing - if not more. Maybe if you spent more time looking at the market instead of wishing EVE were more like WoW you'd know that.
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#3 - 2014-08-14 20:22:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Cipher Jones
Alvatore DiMarco wrote:
"Mass sell to buy orders" will lose you just as much money as reprocessing - if not more. Maybe if you spent more time looking at the market instead of wishing EVE were more like WoW you'd know that.


If you have the time to spend making sell orders that's your business and my suggestion has no bearing on your playtime or income, and I have no idea why you bothered to reply.

If you are talking about selling to buy orders vs. reprocessing, you will lose a substantial portion of ISK reprocessing in the current state compared to the previous state. I'm looking for ease of play, not maximizing profit only. A lot of people are on time constraints and my suggestion is for them (myself included).

You should look into a program such as Eve Refinery if you genuinely think what you posted is true, it will save you some money.

internet spaceships

are serious business sir.

and don't forget it
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#4 - 2014-08-14 20:25:08 UTC
Not to mention repetitive stress disorder brought on from the infinite clicking.

internet spaceships

are serious business sir.

and don't forget it
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#5 - 2014-08-14 20:42:00 UTC
If you really want ease of play and don't care about profits, just reprocess it all anyway.
Since you don't care about profit your lost income shouldn't matter.
Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#6 - 2014-08-14 22:38:07 UTC
takes some time, and a good bit of memory but....learn what items sell like ass, sort them off to the side. take rest, sell it and reprocess the "crap" piles of item in bulk.

Lots of mission loot the prices do not change much over time. I know of several items that have been in basement isk price wise for months to years. They go straight to my melt down tab of corp hanger.
Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#7 - 2014-08-14 22:45:44 UTC
Cipher Jones wrote:
. I'm looking for ease of play, not maximizing profit only.



Reprocessing is ease of play, and mass selling does lose you money compared to making sell orders.

do work, get money.
do less work, dnt get as much money.

EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided"

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Swiftstrike1
Swiftstrike Incorporated
#8 - 2014-08-14 23:13:54 UTC
What you really ought to do for maximum ISK per effort is sort your loot by meta level and take out all the meta 4 stuff for selling. Melt the rest down for scrap. It's not foolproof, but it's better than selling 500 stacks of stuff.

Casual Incursion runner & Faction Warfare grunt, ex-Wormholer, ex-Nullbear.
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#9 - 2014-08-15 01:09:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Alvatore DiMarco
Cipher Jones wrote:
Alvatore DiMarco wrote:
"Mass sell to buy orders" will lose you just as much money as reprocessing - if not more. Maybe if you spent more time looking at the market instead of wishing EVE were more like WoW you'd know that.
If you have the time to spend making sell orders that's your business and my suggestion has no bearing on your playtime or income, and I have no idea why you bothered to reply.
I bothered to reply because I felt you needed to be told how silly this idea is.

Cipher Jones wrote:
If you are talking about selling to buy orders vs. reprocessing, you will lose a substantial portion of ISK reprocessing in the current state compared to the previous state.
I assume you're talking about pre-Crius reprocessing. There's no point in talking about that; it's gone forever as if it never even existed. It doesn't enter into any serious discussions about current-day profit anymore.

Cipher Jones wrote:
I'm looking for ease of play, not maximizing profit only.
Is that so? Let's look at the bolded part of your original post...

Cipher Jones wrote:
The current nerf to reprocessing mission loot really sucks. Its bad enough that I have to make less money, but now I have to spend more time clicking several hundred times every time I turn in mission loot. I cant mass reprocess unless I want to lose all kinds of ISK, so I have to sell. 500 items at a time.
For someone who isn't really very concerned about maximizing profit, you mention it a lot in your original post, sir. You also put in a lot of effort by selling every last item.

Your solution to lots of clicking is already implemented and I refer you to the other posts in this thread that explain them. Fly safe, sir, and happy reprocessing to you.
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#10 - 2014-08-15 07:44:37 UTC
Zan Shiro wrote:
takes some time, and a good bit of memory but....learn what items sell like ass, sort them off to the side. take rest, sell it and reprocess the "crap" piles of item in bulk.

Lots of mission loot the prices do not change much over time. I know of several items that have been in basement isk price wise for months to years. They go straight to my melt down tab of corp hanger.


Many of those things are worth more in tact than reprocessed now, hence the problem. If an item was even borderline in the past I would also melt it down.

@ Alvatore DiMarco

1. It's completely subjective whether or not it's a silly idea. It will help many players enjoy the game more. The fact that you think that is silly is noted, along with you getting the math wrong and being smug. That's a lot of work for 2 sentences.

2. I'm suggesting an alternative method of dealing with whats gone forever.

3. You should look up the definitions of the words "maximizing" and "only". Bold word taken out of context are just that. I'm certainly not interested in making zero profit, nor am I interested in making as little profit as possible. Almost every player in the game makes less than the absolute maximum they can. YOUR solution is already implemented, so happy for you. What I am asking for would free up real life TIME. Much more important to many of us than in game ISK.


internet spaceships

are serious business sir.

and don't forget it
Tabyll Altol
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2014-08-15 09:04:48 UTC
I stopped reading at the word WOW and disagree strongly with the op.

-1
Pidgeon Saissore
Tyrant's
#12 - 2014-08-18 00:14:00 UTC
Cipher Jones wrote:
The current nerf to reprocessing mission loot really sucks. Its bad enough that I have to make less money, but now I have to spend more time clicking several hundred times every time I turn in mission loot. I cant mass reprocess unless I want to lose all kinds of ISK, so I have to sell. 500 items at a time.

I'm not going to ask if its possible, because i know it is. If WoW can do it, we can do it. So lets get a "mass sell to buy orders" function set up within the game.


Or you could just find a guy who does want to do all that marketing stuff and make him do yours as well. I found one and he does this for at least 15 other people that I know of. I never have to touch the market myself.
Fer'isam K'ahn
SAS Veterinarians
#13 - 2014-08-18 11:36:05 UTC
So, I missunderstood your topic ... and realized it was another ninja-sneak 'mass sell' thread.

-1 for that.

I actually thought you wanted to complain about the reprocess window not closing after completion, or having to open it in the first place, cause then I would have joined you, those extra and unnecessary steps annoy me too. Would have give you a +1 for that. But damn you for your sneak repost, damn you, damn you, how could you Roll
Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#14 - 2014-08-18 11:52:46 UTC
Not gonna happen because:

CCP Permaband - Keep Clickin

Stupidity should be a bannable offense.

Fighting back is more fun than not.

Sticky: AFK Cloaking Thread It's not pretty, but it's there.
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#15 - 2014-08-18 18:15:27 UTC
Pathetic.

internet spaceships

are serious business sir.

and don't forget it
Fer'isam K'ahn
SAS Veterinarians
#16 - 2014-08-18 20:11:08 UTC
Cipher Jones wrote:
Pathetic.

Great you finally saw your thread for what it was... now if you please ask to lock it - all is good.
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#17 - 2014-08-18 20:38:25 UTC
Fer'isam K'ahn wrote:
Cipher Jones wrote:
Pathetic.

Great you finally saw your thread for what it was... now if you please ask to lock it - all is good.


Its a great idea and easily implemented. they literally have to add one tab, sell items, to multiple selected items. Adding a customizable filter would be even better. It would effect no one in a negative way and quite a few in a positive way.

Its really poetic justice that Soundwave went to LoL. You probably won't be able to draw the connection.

internet spaceships

are serious business sir.

and don't forget it
Foxstar Damaskeenus
why did i join this corp
Not Purple Shoot It.
#18 - 2014-08-19 06:41:04 UTC
Tabyll Altol wrote:
I stopped reading at the word WOW and disagree strongly with the op.

-1


+1 for Tabyll

"[this thread] is a cesspit of trolling and flaming" ISD Buldath
Matius Udan
Padecains Exploration and Recon Inc
#19 - 2014-08-19 11:59:18 UTC
If it bothers you that much, contract out a mass of loot for 20 -30% less than its worth in one go, it will save you time and someone might get a bargin going through your trash for you.
I thought the money to be made in missions was in turning them round quickly, ignoring the loot?