Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Seems like a good idea.

Lets just identify unintended consequences before we do something like this

1. It also breaks several methods of using marauders
2. Also breaks several ways of using ECM and other subcap support ships
3. Reduces the ability for a smaller, smarter gang to refit mid fight to counter the blob effect
4. no more swapping to a max tank fit mid gank for attentive miners with orca support.
5. Reduces the viability of ninja-ing sites in null
6. no more emergency stab fits for blingy solo PvPers getting blobbed.

Some of those are good, mostly bad. would not like to see this happen.

A much easier way to go about it is make the refit take time. The unfit and refit would be on the same timer as reloading. This way doesn't break anything and still gives the intended result.

This is a much better answer to me. A period of substantially higher risk if refitting in a fight, and a minor hassle if timers are kept reasonable outside a fight makes for an interesting tactical choice. Do you stay in a suboptimal fit and continue engaging, or accept the useless slots as things came online? Especially if you lock these to the highest common reload type in a class i.e. turrets and launchers take 10 seconds to swap, must be inactive and then need to load as a seperate action, so that swapping lasers doesn't mean perma-heating guns.
RHMLs and RLMLs would be somewhat better, and ASBs would also get a nice trick to use, as you could open with such a burst and then swap to sustain modules, but this is already possible and there are much more broken things that can be done with fitting service right now

Proposed mechanics for things without reloads:
Everything must be inactive to come off and not reloading or onlining, and comes off instantly.
Modules are on the hull but not online for a short period of time as they refit.
Subsystems swap instantly, but the whole fit goes into the "boot up" timer.

Some things that need timers but don't have them and my proposed timers
Hardeners need 15s to come up.
passive resists should need 20s ( more time being either neuted out or squishy)
Tracking modules should take 10s.
EWAR and electronics should take 15s
scanning mods 5s
local boosters and reps: 15s
Remote reps and energy transfers: 30s
Capital only modules: 1 minute

Agreed. but as it is, even a moderate effort at re-fitting lets you counter almost any setup in small gang.

No i don't see this fixing carriers or supers that much, this isn't the issue all this lets you do is pop more drones into the flight decks or swap out a burned hardener.

ALSO there is a Hard counter to this already in game that negates its use, its called bumping them away i beleive. And i hear its quite easy in many circumstances. Particularly if they use an orca or Lone carrier, its harder with blobs but at that point you really should just drop dreads and primary the carriers 1 by 1 and kill what you can or consider retreat