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Quick Gallente QQ thread.
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Jeremy Ironforge
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2011-12-09 07:48:35 UTC
Why Incursus has the lowest base CPU of all fighting frigs?

Can't fit proper T2 equip w/o Electronics V

Why Hyperion has the lowest PG of all Tier3 BS's?

Can't fit proper dual rep, dual booster fit with Neutrons II even if ALL5 char. Both Abaddon and Maelstorm can but don't have bonuses... :facepalm:

Why Myrm has 75 Mbs bandwith?

Surely 3 heavy drones is what newbies dream of when train for Gall cruisers instead of Drake((
Mona X
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2 - 2011-12-09 08:38:01 UTC
Jeremy Ironforge wrote:

Why Myrm has 75 Mbs bandwith?

Surely 3 heavy drones is what newbies dream of when train for Gall cruisers instead of Drake((


Try fit 3 Siege Launchers on Drake then.

I need new signature.
Alara IonStorm
#3 - 2011-12-09 08:52:40 UTC
Jeremy Ironforge wrote:
Why Incursus has the lowest base CPU of all fighting frigs?

So it is that and not the 2 slots less it gets from the other 3 Combat Frigs. Don't worry it gets a Drone.

Incursus 8 slots, Rifter 10.
Jeremy Ironforge
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2011-12-09 09:48:17 UTC
Yeah 3 heavy drones equal to 3 sige launchers)) After how many SP in drones?

I'm fine with slot loadout, the inability to fill them with core modules without trainning a skill I don't need asap into perfection is what pisses me.
Max Von Sydow
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2011-12-09 10:00:15 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Jeremy Ironforge wrote:
Why Incursus has the lowest base CPU of all fighting frigs?

So it is that and not the 2 slots less it gets from the other 3 Combat Frigs. Don't worry it gets a Drone.

Incursus 8 slots, Rifter 10.


The incursus isn't the gallentes counterpart of the rifter, the tristan is. and the tristas 10 slots like the rifter.

The incursus is the gall counterpart to breacher, inquisitor and kestrel, even though it's not a missile boat.
Imooo
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#6 - 2011-12-09 10:12:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Imooo
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Jeremy Ironforge wrote:
Why Incursus has the lowest base CPU of all fighting frigs?

So it is that and not the 2 slots less it gets from the other 3 Combat Frigs. Don't worry it gets a Drone.

Incursus 8 slots, Rifter 10.


Doesn't matter what the discussion is about, you can always bet on Alara to turn it about how OP Minmatar is. And as usually with no concern about the facts. Incursus is not the Gallente counterpart to Rifter so it's only logical it has fewer slots, idiot.

Edit: Max von Sydow was quicker pointing this out.
Alara IonStorm
#7 - 2011-12-09 10:35:57 UTC
Max Von Sydow wrote:

The incursus isn't the gallentes counterpart of the rifter, the tristan is. and the tristas 10 slots like the rifter.

The incursus is the gall counterpart to breacher, inquisitor and kestrel, even though it's not a missile boat.

Huh so it is. Wierd I missed that since I fly Tristans more then any other Frigate... =/

Missile slots threw me for a loop.
Imooo wrote:

Doesn't matter what the discussion is about, you can always bet on Alara to turn it about how OP Minmatar is.

Roll Not in the least.
Jeremy Ironforge
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2011-12-09 10:36:45 UTC
Oh why then assualts use Incursus' hull and SBombers use Tristan's?
mkjkgkvk Melkan
Doomheim
#9 - 2011-12-09 10:45:22 UTC
Jeremy Ironforge wrote:
Oh why then assualts use Incursus' hull and SBombers use Tristan's?

drone bay
Alara IonStorm
#10 - 2011-12-09 10:55:36 UTC
mkjkgkvk Melkan wrote:
Jeremy Ironforge wrote:
Oh why then assualts use Incursus' hull and SBombers use Tristan's?

drone bay

They both have a 5m3 Drone Bay.

I would guess it was an aesthetic choice.
m0cking bird
Doomheim
#11 - 2011-12-09 11:24:24 UTC
Well, since you'll be mostly engaging battle-cruisers and lower in a Hyperion for the most part. Lowest tier blaster are superior. Being able to track your target is very important I'm told, which is kinda why the Dominix is superior solo. At-least compared to the Megathron and Hyperion.

I'm not sure the Myrmidon needs to be able to field more heavy drones, without making it overpowered. Although, damage output is a weakness of that ship.

Incursus with better defensive capability, power-grid and Cpu. Would most likely become a very serious threat to a Merlin, Rifter, Tristan. Ships that are of higher tier. Does not make sense with the current tier system and yeah. The Tristan is better with less of the issues you're on about.
Alara IonStorm
#12 - 2011-12-09 11:38:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Alara IonStorm
m0cking bird wrote:

Incursus with better defensive capability, power-grid and Cpu. Would most likely become a very serious threat to a Merlin, Rifter, Tristan. Ships that are of higher tier.

Incursus, Kestrel, Breacher and Inquisitor are also Tier 3 Frigates.

T1 Ceptors and Miners are Tier 1
Ewar Frigs and Probers are Tier 2
Missiles and T1 Assaults are Tier 3
Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2011-12-09 13:53:58 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
mkjkgkvk Melkan wrote:
Jeremy Ironforge wrote:
Oh why then assualts use Incursus' hull and SBombers use Tristan's?

drone bay

They both have a 5m3 Drone Bay.

I would guess it was an aesthetic choice.



no, it's the pointy stick.

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Wylee Coyote
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2011-12-09 15:44:41 UTC
Jeremy Ironforge wrote:
Why Myrm has 75 Mbs bandwith?


Way back when, the myrmidon could field 5 heavy drones, this combined with it's extremely flexible fitting abilities made it Op and to offset that CCP gave it one less fitting slot.

Then the bandwidth nerf came calling and CCP forgot all about the slot they purposely left off the myrm.

So CCP now needs to be told as many times as it takes to make them realize that the myrm either needs it's missing fitting slot (along with pg and cpu to use it) or more bandwidth and dronebay space (preferably both).
Jeremy Ironforge
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2011-12-11 02:57:03 UTC
^ Wow didn't know the whole dramma of it. Now it's even more unfair.
Archare
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2011-12-11 04:50:06 UTC
Grimpak wrote:
Alara IonStorm wrote:
mkjkgkvk Melkan wrote:
Jeremy Ironforge wrote:
Oh why then assualts use Incursus' hull and SBombers use Tristan's?

drone bay

They both have a 5m3 Drone Bay.

I would guess it was an aesthetic choice.



no, it's the pointy stick.


With the Holiday season I always think of the Festivus pole when I jump into an Incursus hull.
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#17 - 2011-12-11 05:49:09 UTC
Oh, oh, oh - since we're complaining about old nerfs: they nerfed the Helios to hell and back.

:(

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.
vorneus
Hub2
#18 - 2011-12-11 11:47:19 UTC
Wylee Coyote wrote:
Jeremy Ironforge wrote:
Why Myrm has 75 Mbs bandwith?


Way back when, the myrmidon could field 5 heavy drones, this combined with it's extremely flexible fitting abilities made it Op and to offset that CCP gave it one less fitting slot.

Then the bandwidth nerf came calling and CCP forgot all about the slot they purposely left off the myrm.

So CCP now needs to be told as many times as it takes to make them realize that the myrm either needs it's missing fitting slot (along with pg and cpu to use it) or more bandwidth and dronebay space (preferably both).


Indeed. This double nerf was rather unfortunate.

The first one was warranted and deliberate, the second accidental and most consider it unfair. I'm not of the school who thinks the Myrm is a terrible ship, but it could certainly do with 100 bandwidth rather than 75, or an extra slot.

-Ed

This one time, I like, totally did some stuff.
Buzzmong
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2011-12-11 12:27:32 UTC
Liang Nuren wrote:
Oh, oh, oh - since we're complaining about old nerfs: they nerfed the Helios to hell and back.

:(

-Liang


This. Hard. To the face.

The Creodron T2 Malus hull that used to be the Helios was one of the best looking ships in game.
The current Imicus based one looks terrible, but so does the Imicus hull in general.
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#20 - 2011-12-11 13:25:09 UTC
Fly a Keres if looks are more important to you than function.

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