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Stormcrows: Killers of 2034 Slaves
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Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#41 - 2014-08-13 17:46:32 UTC
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Hostages? Really Nauppie? You should know better then that. Capauleers only have morals when they're in the IGS fourms. You're going to get shot at regardless of what or who you have in your hold.


We do not negotiate with terrorists.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Anslo
Scope Works
#42 - 2014-08-13 18:34:17 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Hostages? Really Nauppie? You should know better then that. Capauleers only have morals when they're in the IGS fourms. You're going to get shot at regardless of what or who you have in your hold.


We do not negotiate with terrorists.


....wait we negotiate at ALL?

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#43 - 2014-08-13 18:42:31 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Hostages? Really Nauppie? You should know better then that. Capauleers only have morals when they're in the IGS fourms. You're going to get shot at regardless of what or who you have in your hold.


We do not negotiate with terrorists.


....wait we negotiate at ALL?

On occasion. It's normally called "ransom"...

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
#44 - 2014-08-13 18:59:39 UTC
I had mentioned the thing earlier, where a dangerous cultist shot down one of our unarmed Bestowers.

I just a few minutes ago, checked our corporate records, only to find that there was no record of this event taking place.

Only in the involved pilot's own combat records, was this massacre recorded.

So it would seem Theology Council agents have infiltrated the corporate database, and removed the event from record.

Disturbing !

Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.
Ayallah
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#45 - 2014-08-13 19:49:25 UTC
All any of you is doing is making it worse.

Maybe the PLEX you get for delivering his useless corpse to a third party can go to the families of the thousand people he kills when he wakes up. (Or to whatever bullshit non-profit you donated those who lived to.) Or, just give them to the holder, the rightful owner all along! After all, hiring half-******** mercenaries to kill Matari for him sure as **** does not help.

Or, ..maybe one day his bounty will get big enough that he just gives up and goes home. Maybe one day holding a gun to the head of the slaves he pushes in front of himself and screaming at him on the forums that you swear you will do it if he does not shape up will finally get through to him. Maybe, I dunno. I guess I can hope the PLEX prize attracts someone who is not half-alpha clone ******** to come by and fix all of this.

Or maybe all of you will just **** off and maybe give us a chance to save our people from him before you kill them.

Goddess of the IGS

As strength goes.
Arista Shahni
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#46 - 2014-08-13 20:08:39 UTC
So, your plan to 'help' Naupilius was to kill him in space, Ayallah?

Well, I suppose your training was rather narrow. One can't fault you for that.

Regardless, anyone who continues playing armchair psychologist to this particular Capsuleer should start practicing in a mirror first.

"I say that even as the holy and the righteous cannot rise beyond the highest which is in each one of you - so the wicked and the weak cannot fall lower than the lowest which is in you also.  And as a single leaf turns not yellow but with the silent knowledge of the whole tree, so the wrong-doer cannot do wrong without the hidden will of you all."
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#47 - 2014-08-13 20:37:46 UTC
I'm confused, Aya. You've been begging for someone else to take Naupy seriously and, now we have, you seem angry and despairing about it.

Isn't this what you wanted? Weren't his reprisals completely predictable?

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Anslo
Scope Works
#48 - 2014-08-13 20:40:08 UTC
ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?!

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#49 - 2014-08-13 21:49:26 UTC
AM I NOT MERCIFUL?

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Anslo
Scope Works
#50 - 2014-08-13 21:54:30 UTC
IS THIS NOT WHY YOU ARE HERE?

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Soren Tyrhanos
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#51 - 2014-08-14 00:33:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Soren Tyrhanos
If the Stormcrows took the time to secure those slaves and are willing to turn over the Slaves to myself for redistribution amongst the Imperial Holders I will be happy to purchase them for an above market price.

I am glad to see that justice is being visited upon this vile and corrupt individual.
DeadRow
Blue Canary
Watch This
#52 - 2014-08-14 01:08:10 UTC
Such a silly noise over nothing.

~Hikari
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#53 - 2014-08-14 01:26:06 UTC
DeadRow wrote:
Such a silly noise over nothing.

~Hikari

Welcome to the IGS?

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Ayallah
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#54 - 2014-08-14 01:48:00 UTC
Well **** me for doing what I know. It worked better, he went inactive more when I was hunting him. At least I did not get my people killed.

And yea, I thought with all the talking you people did you would be smart enough to figure out to not kill the ******* Matari.

I do not want your help anymore thank you.

Goddess of the IGS

As strength goes.
Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
#55 - 2014-08-14 05:10:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Jandice Ymladris
Ayallah wrote:
Well **** me for doing what I know. It worked better, he went inactive more when I was hunting him. At least I did not get my people killed.

And yea, I thought with all the talking you people did you would be smart enough to figure out to not kill the ******* Matari.

I do not want your help anymore thank you.


This post sounds naieve, especially for you. Look at it from another light, and it's practically a plea to leave Nauplius alone when he's transporting slaves to whatever possible end he has in mind for them.

While I find your emotional involvement commendable, you fail to offer a solution on how you would handled it in this case. If you caught Nauplius with a slave transport carrying thousands aboard, how would you minimize losses?
You can point & web him, attempt to force him to eject, but why should he if he knows you're going to shoot him afterwards and in his view 'deny the slaves their glorious end to God'. So you end up with one of two situations: either he self-destructs the ship, ending the lives of many, or you blow up the ship, with the same result.

This is a tragic reality that alot of people in this thread grasp, it was a choice between two evils, there would never be a 'good' or 'right' way, but they did what they could.

Providing a new home for refugees in the Aurora Arcology
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#56 - 2014-08-14 06:19:29 UTC
Jandice Ymladris wrote:
Ayallah wrote:
Well **** me for doing what I know. It worked better, he went inactive more when I was hunting him. At least I did not get my people killed.

And yea, I thought with all the talking you people did you would be smart enough to figure out to not kill the ******* Matari.

I do not want your help anymore thank you.


This post sounds naieve, especially for you. Look at it from another light, and it's practically a plea to leave Nauplius alone when he's transporting slaves to whatever possible end he has in mind for them.

While I find your emotional involvement commendable, you fail to offer a solution on how you would handled it in this case. If you caught Nauplius with a slave transport carrying thousands aboard, how would you minimize losses?
You can point & web him, attempt to force him to eject, but why should he if he knows you're going to shoot him afterwards and in his view 'deny the slaves their glorious end to God'. So you end up with one of two situations: either he self-destructs the ship, ending the lives of many, or you blow up the ship, with the same result.

This is a tragic reality that alot of people in this thread gasp, it was a choice between two evils, there would never be a 'good' or 'right' way, but they did what they could.


Leaving them alone is also not an option. That way you more or less guarantee a drawn-out death for the slaves.

Warfare, privateering, mercenary work, any kind of task that requires violence is a practice of ruthless calculations. You may hope for the greater good, but most of the time, it's a choice of the lesser evil.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Eran Mintor
Metropolis Commercial Consortium
#57 - 2014-08-14 08:51:02 UTC
I suggest we just get Nauplius really high. Like really really, really out of his mind....he'll never harm a soul again, let alone fly a ship. Where's the booster selling Thukker gal when you need her.....

-Eran
Talas Dir
Super Happy Fun Corp
#58 - 2014-08-14 08:57:37 UTC
Eran Mintor wrote:
I suggest we just get Nauplius really high. Like really really, really out of his mind....he'll never harm a soul again, let alone fly a ship. Where's the booster selling Thukker gal when you need her.....

-Eran


Yes. A mindflood party for IGS has been vastly overdue.
Christine Peeveepeeski
Low Sec Concepts
#59 - 2014-08-14 11:06:33 UTC
Nauplius, the wardec is active. I do not usually broadcast my intentions to the victim so obviously but in this case the message is more important than your inevitable, repeated destruction... of which will happen if I see you anyway.
Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
#60 - 2014-08-14 14:55:43 UTC
Hoshi Karasawa wrote:
This would be where I make it known that the slaves are at this time not in the care of Stormcrows.

They are in the care of myself and the medical staff aboard my Orca class vessel Venix

I am looking to repatriate the slaves to the Republic for proper care once the wounded have been treated enough for transport.

Ms Rella, would Gradient be able to help with this?

My facilities and resources are not enough to deal with 2000 slaves with various wounds both physical and otherwise. I've had to have the main cargo hold converted into temporary accommodations and medical centre for them, even enlisting marine medics from the onboard security regiment.


I, on behalf of Gradient, would be happy to transport the survivors to our relocation facilities in the Republic. I'll contact you via private comms so that arrangements can be made. Thank you.

When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.