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Corp bookmark are intrusive

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Kamuria
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#1 - 2011-12-06 22:05:54 UTC
I have my own bookmarks and if a corp members insert corp boormarks, it messes up my system. There's no option to enable or disable corp bookmarks. If you want to remove the corp bookmarks from the list while right clicking in space, it removes the bookmark from the corp bookmark list for good.

This system is a mess.
Ingvar Angst
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
#2 - 2011-12-06 22:34:33 UTC
Kamuria wrote:
I have my own bookmarks and if a corp members insert corp boormarks, it messes up my system. There's no option to enable or disable corp bookmarks. If you want to remove the corp bookmarks from the list while right clicking in space, it removes the bookmark from the corp bookmark list for good.

This system is a mess.


They really need to undo the subfolder crap they inserted in there. Not being able to quickly find bookmarks is going to get someone killed.

Six months in the hole... it changes a man.

Kamuria
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#3 - 2011-12-09 01:07:58 UTC
I hate the new system so much, instead of right clicking in space I just leave the "people and places" window open and I warp to my destinations from there. Quicker and much less confusing than you're new and very well thought system !
R0Y4L
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#4 - 2011-12-09 04:10:32 UTC
why do you put them in the Corp section then??
you have your own personal section to put your PERSONAL bookmarks in.
the new system is perfect the way it is stop complaining

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CCP Atlas
C C P
C C P Alliance
#5 - 2011-12-09 09:20:53 UTC
I believe some improvements to how corp bookmarks are shown in the in-space menu are coming.
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
#6 - 2011-12-09 10:00:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Robert Caldera
corp bookmarks is a corp asset, so put some rules upon how corporation bookmarks are created and for what.
If people dont comply those rules, kick them.

Maybe a new corporation role would help preventing people from messing up corp bookmarks system, a default pre-set role which can be removed if needed.

Having all jump bridges and all POSes in various systems where the corporation lives is a great improvement for the gameplay, as well as sharing strategically important locations as enemy POSes or something like that.
People spamming corp bookmarks with their own crap which isnt important for the major part of the corp might be a problem because there is no other way to share bookmarks, unless you are in the same location as the receiver of the bookmark - so people possibly tend to abuse corporation bookmark system for this purpose. This could be solved with a different method of sharing bookmarks remotely, we havent at our disposal yet, apart of corporation bookmarks.
Kamuria
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#7 - 2011-12-09 11:03:25 UTC
CCP Atlas wrote:
I believe some improvements to how corp bookmarks are shown in the in-space menu are coming.


When i made my first post there was no folders, but still, i hate those folders, it's 1 more layer before clicking on what i want. What we need is a way to arrange the bookmarks the way we want on the right click, if not, i'll stick to "people and places". Like I said, quicker and less confusing.

If only you had those 2 words in mind when you design new stuff...
Mrs MilkMan
Phlippo Empire Operations
#8 - 2011-12-09 11:06:02 UTC
Hey CCP, first off: corp bookmarks are a great idea. Even for non wormhole people.
But I really appreciated the way I could access my own , personal bookmarks before:

Right click in space, no folders to browse through or people who liked folders more, could create folders. I personally just right click and warp to a bm. I do not want to search folders for something.

So
Quote:
I believe some improvements to how corp bookmarks are shown in the in-space menu are coming.
thx Atlas, do you have any details? I have problems myself to think of a solution which would please everyone, but I think some small options like "show as folder y/n" or something similar could be relatively easy to implement.
Valei Khurelem
#9 - 2011-12-09 12:32:40 UTC
R0Y4L wrote:
why do you put them in the Corp section then??
you have your own personal section to put your PERSONAL bookmarks in.
the new system is perfect the way it is stop complaining



CCP Atlas wrote:
I believe some improvements to how corp bookmarks are shown in the in-space menu are coming.



Would it be against CCP's company policy if you helped us troll people making stupid comments like this?

"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP."   - CCP Ytterbium

Witchking Angmar
Perkele.
#10 - 2011-12-09 13:19:58 UTC
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=41328

My thread with this, and other issues with bookmarks right now.
Ingvar Angst
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
#11 - 2011-12-09 13:20:27 UTC
R0Y4L wrote:
why do you put them in the Corp section then??
you have your own personal section to put your PERSONAL bookmarks in.
the new system is perfect the way it is stop complaining


Stop pretending to be deliberately stupid. You're not impressing anyone.

The new system is completely frakked when you can't right-click in space, select your bookmark right off and warp. Now you have to dig through sub-folders to find where you want to go and that wastes valuable time... enough to get your ship popped when you notice those combat probes on dscan in your wormhole.

The unnecessary, unneeded and un-asked-for change that forces personal bookmarks into a subfolder whether you want them there or not is a mistake, and a potentially fatal one. A subfolder for corp BMs makes sense... personal ones should be sitting right there at your right-click menu where they belong, and like they always have been.

Corporate bookmarks are fine. Personal bookmarks are frakked up now.

Six months in the hole... it changes a man.

Xtover
Cold Moon Destruction.
#12 - 2011-12-09 13:53:48 UTC
CCP Atlas wrote:
I believe some improvements to how corp bookmarks are shown in the in-space menu are coming.



Honestly, I hope it's a big overhaul because here's the process of using a bookmark.

Land on grid, then FC says align to your safe

right click, go down to personal bookmarks, load next window, mouse down to your bookmark, next window, align to.


That takes about 4-5 seconds. It's an ETERNITY when you are in a fight.