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Stormcrows: Killers of 2034 Slaves

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Samira Kernher
Cail Avetatu
#21 - 2014-08-13 10:59:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Samira Kernher
"Repatriate" implies that they are sent back to their home, rather than a completely new nation. While some of the slaves in the butcher's possession might be former Republic nationals, most were probably born and raised in the Empire.

Still, the Republic is a better place for them than in his hands. Keep in mind, however, that the slave butcher uses vitoc on all of his slaves. I don't know how things are today, but I recall Republic healthcare services having issue meeting vitoc demand after Her Imperial Majesty's Emancipation Decree.

Curse those degenerates who in their greed would put slaves up on public markets where vile commoners like the slave butcher can purchase them. They deserved a home under a proper Holder.


I would also lament the deaths of the 2000 that didn't survive. There is nothing merciful about their deaths, and it is disappointing to hear people rationalize it like that. It might be necessary, but it is a tragedy; those 2000 were not saved or given a mercy.
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#22 - 2014-08-13 11:07:39 UTC
Samira Kernher wrote:

I would also lament the deaths of the 2000 that didn't survive. There is nothing merciful about their deaths, and it is disappointing to hear people rationalize it like that. It might be necessary, but it is a tragedy; those 2000 were not saved or given a mercy.


Why exactly was it necessary for them to die?

Katrina Oniseki

Samira Kernher
Cail Avetatu
#23 - 2014-08-13 11:11:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Samira Kernher
The key word was 'might'. And the issue being that, short of getting the slave butcher to voluntarily release them from his custody, there is no other way to retrieve the slaves from his vessels without destroying them.

He will kill all 4000 if you do nothing. So the 2000 that did live and were saved is still better than 0.


Or do you have a better idea?
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#24 - 2014-08-13 11:31:31 UTC
Ever heard of a boarding action? I appreciate that they're practically nonexistent in modern space combat, but...

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders

Samira Kernher
Cail Avetatu
#25 - 2014-08-13 11:36:25 UTC
A boarding action would likely make him self-destruct the vessel.
Anslo
Scope Works
#26 - 2014-08-13 12:12:04 UTC
You know, this was pathetically funny at first. Now you're just annoying me. I suggest you cut this **** out quick.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]

Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
#27 - 2014-08-13 12:22:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Jinari Otsito
On the subject of moving the survivors, OTSI could certainly provide transportation to a Republic facility capable of handling such an influx. Running a Marmite blockade isn't exactly too taxing and the Penumbra has yet to be caught by anyone. We'll even waive the usual transportation fees in the name of humanitarian support.

ETA. If the military savants of this operation don't mind, may I make a minor suggestion? Don't kill his transport vessels. They're harmless. Grab'em, web'em, hold'em until he either redocks or gives up the cargo entirely. With the safety precautions of the jetcan system on-board capsuleer vessels following the build standards we're forced to comply with, he can't jettison them into space without the brief protection of a jetcan. If he tries a self-destruct, well... then you might as well shoot him yourself but every effort to get these people out safely should be made, no?

Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.

Hoshi Karasawa
Karasawa Heavy Engineering
#28 - 2014-08-13 12:26:24 UTC
I'll keep that in mind, Ms Otsito, thank you.

I may be in touch soon.

"Yahy har jar and a botrle od rum" - Pepper Swift

Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#29 - 2014-08-13 12:28:58 UTC
Such a finely tuned moral calculus we have here on the IGS. Plug the following into your equations and see what happens:

  1. While it was my intent to eventually kill all 4,034 Slaves on this Industrial, their deaths were not imminent and some of the Slaves would have lived months, even years had the Stormcrows not murdered them. That lifespan, however short or valueless some of you may consider it to be, was taken from these Slaves and they did not have any choice in the matter.
  2. Some of the Slaves would have survived despite my intent to kill them eventually. People such as Ayallah and Ava Starfire have taken Slaves from me in the past and they took them from my armed combat ships, not unarmed Bestowers. Furthermore, there is always the possibility that I will take a temporary retirement from piloting — as I have done several times in the past, most recently for a two and one half year period — and leave my slaves either to languish peacefully in a hanger or be sold back on the SCC markets into "normal" Amarrian slavery.
  3. My slave pool is not finite but instead I replenish it from the SCC markets as Slaves are lost in combat, sacrificed, decimated, or worked to death. I prefer to keep a working stock of around 20,000 Slaves (I purchase and prepare Slaves intended for the rare mass-sacrifices separately, as these receive no crew or planetary colony training). Therefore, the ledger here is not, "2,034 killed, 2,000 saved", but:
  4. 2,034 Nauplius-slaves killed
    2,000 Nauplius-slaves get "freedom"
    About 4,000 Slaves move from "regular" Amarrian slavery to Nauplius-slavery
    Put that way, it doesn't look so good now, does it?


Finally, let me make the following adjustment to the Nauplius-shooting moral calculus going forward:

  1. Henceforth, the cargo holds of all my combat ships will be stuffed with extra slaves who serve no purpose but to bloody the hands of all who would shoot at me.
  2. Henceforth, whenever I am podded for any reason, I shall kill 1,000 of my Slaves. This rule is retroactive to my last podding, so let all who would attend Lady Odelya d'Hanguest's Nauplius corpse viewing party mediate upon the 1,000 Slaves who at this very moment are being prepared for their deaths with maximum psychological torture.


Amen. Amarr Victor.
Anslo
Scope Works
#30 - 2014-08-13 12:33:24 UTC
Oh well, no one say I didn't warn him.

Time to do a thing.

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Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#31 - 2014-08-13 12:47:57 UTC
So your evilness suddenly become our fault? That you blame us for your actions.

❤️️💛💚💙💜

Caroline Grace
Retrostellar Boulevard
#32 - 2014-08-13 12:52:58 UTC
Capsuleer Nauplius, for your crimes against humanity, I have put another 666 666 ISK bounty on your head, directly insulting you, your God and condemning any and all of your past and present actions involving such crimes. Please refrain from such activities in the future or I will be forced to take more serious actions against you, up to and including a permanent annihilation of your capsuleer status through violent buttslapping leading to your clone death.

I'm Caroline Grace, and this is my favorite musical on the Citadel.

Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#33 - 2014-08-13 13:42:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Elmund Egivand
Nauplius wrote:
Such a finely tuned moral calculus we have here on the IGS. Plug the following into your equations and see what happens:

  1. While it was my intent to eventually kill all 4,034 Slaves on this Industrial, their deaths were not imminent and some of the Slaves would have lived months, even years had the Stormcrows not murdered them. That lifespan, however short or valueless some of you may consider it to be, was taken from these Slaves and they did not have any choice in the matter.
  2. Some of the Slaves would have survived despite my intent to kill them eventually. People such as Ayallah and Ava Starfire have taken Slaves from me in the past and they took them from my armed combat ships, not unarmed Bestowers. Furthermore, there is always the possibility that I will take a temporary retirement from piloting — as I have done several times in the past, most recently for a two and one half year period — and leave my slaves either to languish peacefully in a hanger or be sold back on the SCC markets into "normal" Amarrian slavery.
  3. My slave pool is not finite but instead I replenish it from the SCC markets as Slaves are lost in combat, sacrificed, decimated, or worked to death. I prefer to keep a working stock of around 20,000 Slaves (I purchase and prepare Slaves intended for the rare mass-sacrifices separately, as these receive no crew or planetary colony training). Therefore, the ledger here is not, "2,034 killed, 2,000 saved", but:
  4. 2,034 Nauplius-slaves killed
    2,000 Nauplius-slaves get "freedom"
    About 4,000 Slaves move from "regular" Amarrian slavery to Nauplius-slavery
    Put that way, it doesn't look so good now, does it?


Finally, let me make the following adjustment to the Nauplius-shooting moral calculus going forward:

  1. Henceforth, the cargo holds of all my combat ships will be stuffed with extra slaves who serve no purpose but to bloody the hands of all who would shoot at me.
  2. Henceforth, whenever I am podded for any reason, I shall kill 1,000 of my Slaves. This rule is retroactive to my last podding, so let all who would attend Lady Odelya d'Hanguest's Nauplius corpse viewing party mediate upon the 1,000 Slaves who at this very moment are being prepared for their deaths with maximum psychological torture.


Amen. Amarr Victor.


Calculus eh? I still consider all 4034 slaves liberated, 2034 without their lives and 2000 more with their lives. And bloody our hands? Unless you had been living under a cave, you know that our hands are long bloodied. What's a few pints more?

Moreover, you are the 'Enemy'. Anyone who has labelled you as 'The Enemy' is no longer considering sportsmanship when they see you. You are beneath sportsmanship. This is about hurting you. Relieving you of your assets. Haranguing you until you lose your hair. Denying you any form of satisfaction. This will continue until you are run out of town, preferably while you are still in your small clothes. However, since you are a capsuleer and mortality means differently for the likes of us, this is going to go on for a very long time.

So enjoy. Keep 'stuffing' slaves into your ships to drag into your horrific 'Nauplius-slavery'. They will be liberated, with or without their lives. Don't expect bleeding hearts. Expect to die.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Aelisha
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#34 - 2014-08-13 13:57:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Aelisha
Your miss-allocation of blame is not our problem, Naupilus. If you're after wailing and gnashing of teeth, you might be better off appealing to a live audience in The Summit or one of the 'Official' channels.

Should relocation services be required for liberated* slaves, and none of the individuals who have thus far offered be able to assist, AWEX- can offer a secure route to the outpost situated in the same system as the Ayem Colony and Aurora Arcology projects.

As I exclude unknowns from contacting me personally, please notify me of interest in this thread should you wish to be added to my contacts list to discuss pro-bono logistics assistance leading to that specific colony. No other relocation options are offered at this time.

*Liberated specifically from Nauplius' stock. AWEX- makes no comment on the morality, legality or ethics of slavery in the Amarr Empire. AWEX- does not employ slavery as a corporate resource.

CEO of the Achura-Waschi Exchange

Intaki Reborn

Independent Capsuleer

Hoshi Karasawa
Karasawa Heavy Engineering
#35 - 2014-08-13 15:41:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Hoshi Karasawa
Ms Aelisha, I would be interested to discuss such logistics assistance, should the survivors decide they wish to go to those colonies instead of the Republic. They can decide where they want to go. it's not my decision to make nor my place to tell them where to go.

"Yahy har jar and a botrle od rum" - Pepper Swift

Ashlar Vellum
Esquire Armaments
#36 - 2014-08-13 16:38:02 UTC
Nauplius wrote:

Some of the Slaves would have survived despite my intent to kill them eventually. People such as Ayallah and Ava Starfire have taken Slaves from me in the past and they took them from my armed combat ships, not unarmed Bestowers. Furthermore, there is always the possibility that I will take a temporary retirement from piloting — as I have done several times in the past, most recently for a two and one half year period — and leave my slaves either to languish peacefully in a hanger or be sold back on the SCC markets into "normal" Amarrian slavery.

Wait a minute, weren't you "liberating" them by your actions? So now after road getting a little bit bumpy you are backpedaling, you are one lousy acolyte of your cult.

Nauplius wrote:

Finally, let me make the following adjustment to the Nauplius-shooting moral calculus going forward:

  1. Henceforth, the cargo holds of all my combat ships will be stuffed with extra slaves who serve no purpose but to bloody the hands of all who would shoot at me.
  2. Henceforth, whenever I am podded for any reason, I shall kill 1,000 of my Slaves. This rule is retroactive to my last podding, so let all who would attend Lady Odelya d'Hanguest's Nauplius corpse viewing party mediate upon the 1,000 Slaves who at this very moment are being prepared for their deaths with maximum psychological torture.


This just sounds desperate. You were in the warzone, so you probably know how many we kill, now stretch your thinking muscle and remember how many soulless-ones kill while they work for the empires. In the grand scheme of things your 1000 are not even a drop in the ocean.
If you are breaking at least have some modicum of self-respect.
Ragnar Severasse
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2014-08-13 16:39:56 UTC
Ms. Karasawa, If any freemen wish to immigrate to the Federation, I will be more than happy to help. As I have immigrated several years ago, I can provide council to those unfamiliar with Federation protocol.
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#38 - 2014-08-13 17:28:27 UTC
Hostages? Really Nauppie? You should know better then that. Capauleers only have morals when they're in the IGS fourms. You're going to get shot at regardless of what or who you have in your hold.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.

Eran Mintor
Metropolis Commercial Consortium
#39 - 2014-08-13 17:33:01 UTC
Ashlar Vellum wrote:
In the grand scheme of things your 1000 are not even a drop in the ocean.


Certainly 1000 out of several trillion seems irrelevant if you are using mathematical logic. Unfortunately, the reality is that it only takes one life to change the course of a history.

With that said, I don't see anyone killing this mans resolve by hunting him down but instead strengthening his determination. After all, with so many threads about him on the front page, he's raking in more attention than a lingerie model in a Brutor barracks. Sometimes it's best to ignore griefers, psychopaths, and step-parents. Eventually they lose their steam, unless you keep throwing wood in the fire.

-Eran
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#40 - 2014-08-13 17:45:46 UTC
Ragnar Severasse wrote:
Ms. Karasawa, If any freemen wish to immigrate to the Federation, I will be more than happy to help. As I have immigrated several years ago, I can provide council to those unfamiliar with Federation protocol.


Just drawl your words and keep a white flag handy.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.