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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#21 - 2014-08-12 20:24:16 UTC
Bullock Brawn wrote:

Cry Victims of Piracy have no restitution payment if Pirate wants to reform and gain
what other High Sec players have earned.


Well, if 'Highsec players' would leave highsec and farm Sec Tags, then sell said Sec Tags to players who want to fix their sec.. then wouldn't that be restitution?

Oh wait.. nope. ::effort:: and/or ::risk:: involved.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#22 - 2014-08-12 20:27:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Cyniac wrote:
Revenge.
A dish best served cold, with a side order of deceit and explosions.

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Concord Guy's Cousin
Doomheim
#23 - 2014-08-12 20:43:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Concord Guy's Cousin
Bullock Brawn wrote:
... Yes, bring in the Attorney......another pirate to fight pirates.
For the small upfront fee of 1.5T isk I can ask my not so secret contact in New Eden's "law enforcement" community to petition for the clause in the Yulai Convention which made the profession of Internet Spaceship Lawyer punishable by perma-death to be repealed.

I wouldn't hold out too much hope though, much of the power that the New Eden "law enforcement" community currently abuses wields is down to the fact that being an Internet Spaceship Lawyer is grounds for the destruction, by incineration, of all clones and organic matter belonging to any persons parasite practicing said vile profession.

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#24 - 2014-08-12 20:52:20 UTC
Tippia wrote:
No. Just hire some mercs. It's much the same thing as a lawyers, only with less chintzy shoes.

I will have you know madam ,Our shoes are the chintzy'st aurum can buy.

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#25 - 2014-08-12 21:07:27 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Tippia wrote:
No. Just hire some mercs. It's much the same thing as a lawyers, only with less chintzy shoes.

I will have you know madam ,Our shoes are the chintzy'st aurum can buy.
Confirming Ralph has some serious footwear, his better half is well jelly.

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#26 - 2014-08-12 21:10:17 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Tippia wrote:
No. Just hire some mercs. It's much the same thing as a lawyers, only with less chintzy shoes.

I will have you know madam ,Our shoes are the chintzy'st aurum can buy.

Ok, fair enough. On second thought, I was going for more of a “chavtastic” sense anyway: stupidly expensive for no conceivable reason, least of all style.
Saisin
Chao3's Rogue Operatives Corp
#27 - 2014-08-12 21:22:28 UTC
I like the idea of linking up the bounty to gaining sec status, thoug for other reasons than the OP...
Right now, having a bounty does not mean anything for a toon, except as a badge of honor to appear on the top of bounty lists.

If you had to pay a percentage of your bounty to go up in sec status, that would be neat. It would force players with a bounty to shell out ISK to get their sec up., and as they do so,it should also lessen their bounty total accordingly.

If this is done, There should also be an option for characters to buy out their bounty, I.e. Paying the bounty office the value of their bounty (ISK sink) to bring this bounty to 0..

So when a characters receives a sec status + the ISK would be taken from his/her wallet. If not enough ISK then the sec status increase would simply be ignored.

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#28 - 2014-08-12 21:25:18 UTC
I can see where the spirit of the OP is, but the letter of it spells otherwise. Such a system would be gamed and heavily open to abuse.

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#29 - 2014-08-12 21:35:02 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Tippia wrote:
No. Just hire some mercs. It's much the same thing as a lawyers, only with less chintzy shoes.

I will have you know madam ,Our shoes are the chintzy'st aurum can buy.

Ok, fair enough. On second thought, I was going for more of a “chavtastic” sense anyway: stupidly expensive for no conceivable reason, least of all style.

err, i have two bionic arms you cant even see, thats a billion (ish i havent checked) isk in vanity thats not even on showCool

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Bullock Brawn
Doomheim
#30 - 2014-08-12 21:36:29 UTC
Well that went well...


I think many may have missed the point, and perhaps I stated it poorly.

It wasn't too replace the broken bounty system.

The Security Status bounty I am speaking of, was merely the amount of ISK a Pirate has to pay if they want to get the security status back to travel in HS again. The victim would get their loss back, and it would be tied to a kill rights system which I think means the victim was wronged in HS and not a mutual battle.
Serene Repose
#31 - 2014-08-12 21:39:57 UTC
A thousand thoughts flashed through my mind as I read this. Other than being encouraged that my mind can still process a thousand thoughts after all that abuse, the only thing that screamed for a response was Tippia's rather cavalier comment, and to that I reply:

We must accommodate the idiocracy.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#32 - 2014-08-12 21:42:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Bullock Brawn wrote:
Well that went well...


I think many may have missed the point, and perhaps I stated it poorly.

It wasn't too replace the broken bounty system.

The Security Status bounty I am speaking of, was merely the amount of ISK a Pirate has to pay if they want to get the security status back to travel in HS again. The victim would get their loss back, and it would be tied to a kill rights system which I think means the victim was wronged in HS and not a mutual battle.

Are you proposing to exclude low security status players from highsec unless they pay to boost their sec status?

If I read that right then popcorn.
If that's not what you meant I suggest you rephrase the part of your post that I've highlighted.

Also tags for sec status, already purchasable, and quite pricey to achieve a 0.0 or positive sec status from -10. If you want restitution from gankers, sell tags to those who care about their sec status.

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#33 - 2014-08-12 21:43:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
err, i have two bionic arms you cant even see, thats a billion (ish i havent checked) isk in vanity thats not even on showCool

You're not wearing your arms on your feet, I hope…?

Bullock Brawn wrote:
The victim would get their loss back
No.
Jarod Garamonde
Jolly Codgers
Get Off My Lawn
#34 - 2014-08-12 21:51:33 UTC
Bullock Brawn wrote:

(message truncated because it contains nothing but nonsensical sperging and epic QQ's)



Um.... go to hell, for the following reasons:

1. This is a PvP game. Not a carebear game where PvP is a broken subfunction. PvP is default mode. Get used to it or get gone.

2. Carebears are not the only ones who have "earned" their security rating. Pirates like myself have to grind back our sec through missions and/or ratting, or pay out the nose for tags. We earn our ratings the same way you do. There is no difference between someone who maintains a +5, and someone who climbs back up from -10, except that the pirate has to do a lot more to get to +5.

3. F&I is that way ------->

4. You're right.... trust is EVERYTHING in this game. I just have different people I want to trust me than you do. Neither of our playstyles are any more or less valid.

5. "Death Matters" and "Be The Villain" are previous ad slogans for this game, and they continue to ring true to this day, as they will as long as there is an EVE Online. Get used to it, or get gone.

6. Stop being a victim and learn to fight back. Nobody's going to force us to pay you back because you refused to maintain situational awareness. That's what ship insurance is for.

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Mag's
Azn Empire
#35 - 2014-08-12 21:53:10 UTC
Bullock Brawn wrote:
Well that went well...


I think many may have missed the point, and perhaps I stated it poorly.

It wasn't too replace the broken bounty system.

The Security Status bounty I am speaking of, was merely the amount of ISK a Pirate has to pay if they want to get the security status back to travel in HS again. The victim would get their loss back, and it would be tied to a kill rights system which I think means the victim was wronged in HS and not a mutual battle.

You're playing the wrong game.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#36 - 2014-08-12 21:56:46 UTC
Mag's wrote:
Bullock Brawn wrote:
Well that went well...


I think many may have missed the point, and perhaps I stated it poorly.

It wasn't too replace the broken bounty system.

The Security Status bounty I am speaking of, was merely the amount of ISK a Pirate has to pay if they want to get the security status back to travel in HS again. The victim would get their loss back, and it would be tied to a kill rights system which I think means the victim was wronged in HS and not a mutual battle.

You're playing the wrong game.
From his past posting expect to be called a bully for saying that.

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Mag's
Azn Empire
#37 - 2014-08-12 21:58:25 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Mag's wrote:
Bullock Brawn wrote:
Well that went well...


I think many may have missed the point, and perhaps I stated it poorly.

It wasn't too replace the broken bounty system.

The Security Status bounty I am speaking of, was merely the amount of ISK a Pirate has to pay if they want to get the security status back to travel in HS again. The victim would get their loss back, and it would be tied to a kill rights system which I think means the victim was wronged in HS and not a mutual battle.

You're playing the wrong game.
From his past posting expect to be called a bully for saying that.
Well it's not a patch on what the wife calls me so.... Lol

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#38 - 2014-08-12 22:00:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Mag's wrote:
You're playing the wrong game.
Quote:
From his past posting expect to be called a bully for saying that.
Well it's not a patch on what the wife calls me so.... Lol
My ex-wife resembles that remark....

I still have a soft spot for her, somewhere on Dartmoor EvilTwisted

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Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#39 - 2014-08-12 22:07:21 UTC
As a PvPer, when someone blows up my ship, I think "Time to get a new one."

As a PvEer, when someone blows up your ship, you think "How do I get revenge/hurt this person?"

Carebears: Literally psychopaths.

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#40 - 2014-08-12 22:20:44 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
err, i have two bionic arms you cant even see, thats a billion (ish i havent checked) isk in vanity thats not even on showCool

You're not wearing your arms on your feet, I hope…?

Now I know you know about the thing with the guy in the place but that's no reason to be letting everyone know now is it!

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