EVE General Discussion

Haven't undocked from Jita4-4 in years crew checking in.

Basically, I look at EVE kind of like an updated version of that old game Freelancer, with the added bonus that it's an evolving universe with a persistent history shaped by other players, which means the game is never really over.

For a nerd that likes spaceships, flying spaceships around that kind of universe is fun, even if I'm not directly involved in epic battles and the 0.0 sov game. When I log on, I see a news screen that updates with actual events that happened elsewhere in the galaxy. That's cool to me; it feels like being part of a sci-fi universe in a way that's not really possible with any other game.

As for goals, that's not why I play video games, and consequently why I'm not in a corporation. I get enough of planning, scheduling, tedium, pressure, and organizing in real life. I don't want to log in on somebody else's timetable like a job to be handed orders or assignments or be hollered at by a boss, nor do I want to be a nameless grunt in someone else's army.

I play when I feel like it, and do whatever I feel like when I'm online. Sometimes that means running a mission. Sometimes that means scanning a few systems to check out some some exploration sites or poke around in a wormhole. Sometimes I'll just fly around to see what I can find and admire the shiny lights.

Because I'm having fun in highsec and I don't have the time to do lowsec/0.0 pvp. (i've done the 0.0 wars up north.) Took too much of my time.

There's also the issue of financial pressure v time spend playing. To be most effective all my time had to go into PVP, which left little time to PVE(isk making). And Since I don't want to pay for 2+ accounts (scout alts), which is a required mechanic to survive, I funded them with plex, which was another financial pressure point.

Ps, I ended up with dualbox carrier setup, which was fun until you do an op and get hotdropped by 300 supercarriers. Then I decided to take a break and focus on my alt highsec bpo business (see sig).


Basically, I assume for most people the reward against the time/effort just isn't worth it, time being the major pressure point of low/0.0 pvp. If you only have one hour to play in an evening, you're not going to organize and pvp and fund your losses. It just doesn't work unless you're lucky.

Once upon a time there was a player in the Bosena > Egbinger pipe who flew either a Dramiel or a Gila around and he shotted people. He was -10 all the time and he shotted people and he shotted people and he shotted people.
Then one day on the forums I teased him about his playstyle. He answered straight back in a creepy, morbid paragraph that basically meant UMAD?
Unfortunately I didn't read his reply, so he was left with my silence for him to reflect upon himself within. Haven't seen him online since.

Sometimes taking an objective look at yourself wrecks your everything. Criticism locates and identifies an enemy to be resisted.
Resistance is not response.

The cost of dying is too high for my tastes. I can take having to buy a new ship. Grudgingly... But even if I fly a shuttle into a gate camp, get ganked, get podded, and find myself back in my home station, I've just lost even more money because I have to upgrade my clone again.

So in short, I lose a ship, fitting, clone, and implants. All to a damn afk gate camp or to some pirate who happened to be staring at local. So solo in low sec? Not a chance. :) I tried to join a corp who had a foothold in low sec, but was told my skill points were too low. Sooo..... I'm still in high sec, running missions, playing with fittings, training skills, and having fun exploring Empire space from one end to the other :)

Avoid the Neutral Zone. It's just not worth it.

I played this game for a pretty long time having seldom left high-sec. I made my first trip, as a noob, to low-sec and got caught at a belt in my Navitas and podded.

I made my second trip to low-sec as a still noob mission runner. The mission took me to low sec, and some people waited for me to finish it before they tackled my slow Domi, blew it up, and podded me. I had no real idea why I was dying so easily, so I started reading about the mechanics and how PVP worked. I realized that the people that live in Low/Null are prepared for group PVP. They know the fits, have the alts, have the friends, know the territory, and have every advantage they can ahead of time. They have to. They're fighting other people like them.

I then realized that I didn't know what I was doing, and didn't have friends to teach me, and didn't have money to pay for alts (and eventually PLEX), and I didn't have the time to grind for ISK just get it blown up in PVP. So I avoided it like the plague.

But EVE is very boring without PVP. So after I got enough knowledge to at least not be bewildered by every defeat; to at least know WHY I was getting killed so much, I joined a low-sec corp that was inviting at the time. I've found them to be very laid-back people that have studied how to PVP in EVE because it's what they like doing.

But I stayed in high-sec for so long because I knew that to leave would probably be suicide. I knew that I didn't have any upper hands, so I decided not to bother. If you can win, but it's a long shot, it's called a risk. If you can't win because you don't have a clue it isn't a risk anymore. It's just stupid.

I'd guess that a lot of people stuck in high-sec are there because they don't know how to PVP, and they don't want to get their face pounded in while they learn. Others are just not interested in fighting other people for fun. I mean, there's usually no profit in it. What's the point? Some have done the PVP thing enough to have gotten bored with it, but still like chatting w/ people and hanging out in EVE. And still others are too stupid, ignorant, or time-starved to be able to do anything more creative and risky than warping to the thingy and F1ing the red crosses.

It doesn't really matter. There's stuff to do no matter where you go.

Because game doesn't have any other casual gameplay.
When you have like 1-2 free hrs a day or even less your choice is pretty obvious.
I can also have a pimped out 10+ bill Vargur that kills rats only by the fact of warping close to them. So fearsome it is!

My question to you: what's your problem with me doing missions or any other stuff that doesn't involve people?

PEOPLE ENGAGE IN PLAYER VERSUS PLAYER COMBAT IN THIS GAME?

Stopped reading, right here.

So fake internets non-pubbie press is somehow more legitimate, eh, TEST/Goon-alt?

Go back to your RMT/bot-farming, you sanctimonious little girl, your owners need you...

Because some people have lives, who still like the game, but don't have the time to invest in it that you do? You get that right? That not everyone that plays this game is exactly like you? That other people have different lives than you do and have different reasons for doing completely different things, right?