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What about including both?

Have an include & exclude checkmark, with Exclude having the priority.
Include, will show.
Exclude, will never show.
And those with neither will not show up unless another parameter is met.

For example, for HS combat:
Include: Wartarget, Outlaw, Suspect
Exclude: Corp, Alliance, fleet etc.
Neither: Pilot has no standing

If your corpmate goes suspect, you won't see him. If neutral is not a wartarget or a suspect, he won't show up. If a neutral goes suspect, he will show up.

EDIT: "Show" / "Never Show" are probably better indicators for what the switch does.

Simple?

The overview has always been a pound-head-against-the-wall part of the game.


While the value of sharable OVs is yet to be determined, I think CCP could take it a step further. I've always found the tabs & brackets combination to be counterintuitive. Tabs have always made sense. Brackets a little less so. I'd prefer to simply have tabs increase from 5 to 10, with no brackets. (Nullsec, CAP warfare, carebearing pilots might have different needs, which includes brackets... IDK.)


What I'd really like to see is an out-of-game CCP website, where one could safely modify their overview settings. All of the options would be visible on a single page rather than the small multi-tabbed in-game box. A player could click on "create new tab" and then select all the applicable boxes. Display priorities could be set, either through drag & drop like the in-game system, or by a simple numerical rank 1...10. Changes would show up on a preview overview. When satisfied, you'd simply create a name for the TAB and then save it. The player could then select which TABs he/she wanted imported to the client, and in what order.

This proposed out-of-game method of OV changes would supplement to the current in-game system, not replace it. I've read old forum posts that this was once available to players, but no more.


In general, and probably should have started with this, I prefer to have the tools to set my own overview. What CCP currently has is rather infuriating. Relying on a second party to provide me with what their version of what my overview should look like is unpalatable.

How about a sixth tab, like temporary tab to any new overview before its saved and named, that can be used to preview any new overviews clicked?

Many thanks for the hard work, especially those of you on vacation.

This will be very helpful for players new and old alike.

Not to disparage the hard work already put in, but I think it might have been a bit more appealing if these settings were imported/exported one tab at a time... and only if you have a tab free. Otherwise you are given the proposed prompt to back up that tab in case you prefer your old settings (of course it would give you the option of which tab to overwrite if all of your tabs are full).

I'd keep a tab free to check out new overviews, or for special cases where you are working with other friendly corps/alliances and all need to stay on the same page for a limited amount of time.

I'm just saying that would allow more flexibility, and I'd be more confident about accepting an overview setting that I could easily tab away from (because my vital settings are on other tabs already). I could then decide if I have a need to make that tab a permanent addition or replacement for my own settings after playing with it on for awhile.

That being said, this is a huge step in the right direction for one of the most frustrating parts of EVE game play for many people.

I think, if the truth be known, that the fear of looking stupid because your overview settings aren't right is one of the main things that keeps people from taking their first step into PVP activities... and trying to figure out all the intricacies the first time (often in a hurry) makes people just throw up their hands after a while and not bother with it at all.

Once again, thanks to all of you for the feedback.



Importing an overview profile using this new method will not overwrite any previously saved tab presets (unless they have the same names - an issue we are currently looking into). This means that as long as you remember to save your presets before clicking on a shared overview profile link, you can simply load your saved presets back into any tab with just a few clicks afterwards, effectively mixing and matching two profiles.



That's a really great idea! We will definitely look into this soon :)

One more thing - we are looking into adding some kind of overview history feature, as that would address many concerns voiced in this thread. More details on this later.

We're importing the entire settings, tab names, appearances tab, columns etc. This is way beyond the tabs. Best thing you could do is give us the ability to save our entire overview. We import another, say this sucks, and revert to the old settings.

Let me remind you of the fact that you wouldn't see anyone in your overview, seeing as you just clicked the overview which only has an asteroids tab spread by the enemy fleet.. The modal window just saved you

Does the new import/export saving also save the customisable corp/alliance tag input boxes?
ie this section... http://i.imgur.com/s8SezYG.png

Perhaps this is the wrong time to ask, but can a better description of the item in the overview be setup? like a hover over or something. for example just what is a "flashpoint", is a "convoy" an NPC or Player ship?

I do know some of those answers but only after lots of searching the internet and forums. it would also help in setting up the overviews.