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Rhoaden
Australia Federal Police
#21 - 2014-08-11 08:56:20 UTC
I hope people relies that if you combine the engineering sub and the drone offensive sub it's 100mb bandwith and 225 drone bay. so it's basical a myrm but with uber tank it's just useless compared to 900 dps blaster protues.
Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
#22 - 2014-08-11 12:02:21 UTC
Omega Crendraven wrote:
Give this T3 ship an Afterburner bonus like tengu and legion (Fuel Catalyst ) that also gives a lot better agility, gallente armor brawlers must be agile to slingshot brutor minmatar kite boats ))

Also make the drone subsystem useful, add +25mb Drone Bandwith and give bonus to tracking and speed of all drones so people don't have OP ishtars with sick tank, in exchange remove the hybrid bonuses.

kkthxby Big smile

<3 CCP Rise keep bringing the solo back))


I was with you until you said "removing the hybrid bonuses". To clarify, to you want the hybrid bonuses removed from the drone subsystem, or from the Proteus in general?

If just the subsystem, I would be OK with that. (I never use it anyway.)
Omega Crendraven
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2014-08-11 20:01:33 UTC
Owen Levanth wrote:
Omega Crendraven wrote:
Give this T3 ship an Afterburner bonus like tengu and legion (Fuel Catalyst ) that also gives a lot better agility, gallente armor brawlers must be agile to slingshot brutor minmatar kite boats ))

Also make the drone subsystem useful, add +25mb Drone Bandwith and give bonus to tracking and speed of all drones so people don't have OP ishtars with sick tank, in exchange remove the hybrid bonuses.

kkthxby Big smile

<3 CCP Rise keep bringing the solo back))


I was with you until you said "removing the hybrid bonuses". To clarify, to you want the hybrid bonuses removed from the drone subsystem, or from the Proteus in general?

If just the subsystem, I would be OK with that. (I never use it anyway.)


Just the subsystem, replace the hybrid turrent bonus with drone tracking, speed, and ehp
w3ak3stl1nk
Hedion University
#24 - 2014-08-23 16:02:48 UTC
Omega Crendraven wrote:
Owen Levanth wrote:
Omega Crendraven wrote:
Give this T3 ship an Afterburner bonus like tengu and legion (Fuel Catalyst ) that also gives a lot better agility, gallente armor brawlers must be agile to slingshot brutor minmatar kite boats ))

Also make the drone subsystem useful, add +25mb Drone Bandwith and give bonus to tracking and speed of all drones so people don't have OP ishtars with sick tank, in exchange remove the hybrid bonuses.

kkthxby Big smile

<3 CCP Rise keep bringing the solo back))


I was with you until you said "removing the hybrid bonuses". To clarify, to you want the hybrid bonuses removed from the drone subsystem, or from the Proteus in general?

If just the subsystem, I would be OK with that. (I never use it anyway.)


Just the subsystem, replace the hybrid turrent bonus with drone tracking, speed, and ehp

Could replace with an extra low or mid slot... Giving it flexibility than a hard stat

Is that my two cents or yours?
Ghaustyl Kathix
Rising Thunder
#25 - 2014-08-23 16:34:09 UTC
Lyra Gerie wrote:
Idk so much about the AB bonuses, but the drone bonuses for sure need to be amped up at least a little. 75/75 is a little low for gallente, at least 100/100.
The Augmented Capacitor Reservoir gives an extra 25 bandwidth and 100 capacity, drone hit point bonus and drone MWD speed. Little odd that it's in this subsystem, to the honest, but that's there for drone bonuses.

Also, the Localized Injectors subsystem is a hell of a lot better than the one the that the other three have.
Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
#26 - 2014-08-23 16:42:32 UTC
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When did Russians open all these brackets.

EvE-Mail me if you need anything.
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#27 - 2014-08-23 21:12:18 UTC
If we're going to discuss Proteus rebalancing, let's start not by buffing it but by nerfing the EHP back to something a bit more ... cruiser-sized.
Omega Crendraven
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2014-08-25 02:09:42 UTC
Alvatore DiMarco wrote:
If we're going to discuss Proteus rebalancing, let's start not by buffing it but by nerfing the EHP back to something a bit more ... cruiser-sized.


Agreed
Asa Shahni
Inevitable Outcome
E.C.H.O
#29 - 2014-08-25 09:15:23 UTC
If the prot need some love then the legion need twice as much.

260k+ ehp with 700ish dps at 30km ...i dont think he realy need a speed bonus on top of that.

Legion cant even fit a full rack of heavy beam laser and come close to 600dps because of fitting issues not to mention ehp problems because of the damn limited PW.

Fix it then we'll talk about giving the best armor T3 around another buff.
Asa Shahni
Inevitable Outcome
E.C.H.O
#30 - 2014-08-25 09:22:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Asa Shahni
If the prot need some love then the legion need twice as much.

260k+ ehp with 700ish dps at 30km ...i dont think he realy need a speed bonus on top of that.

Legion cant even fit a full rack of heavy beam laser and a decent tank because the weapon system has broken fitting stats and one less low slot.

Fix it then we'll talk about giving the best armor T3 around another buff.

(Sorry for the double post, the edit option is drunk >.>)
Ghaustyl Kathix
Rising Thunder
#31 - 2014-08-25 12:47:24 UTC
Asa Shahni wrote:
Legion cant even fit a full rack of heavy beam laser and come close to 600dps because of fitting issues not to mention ehp problems because of the damn limited PW.
In fairness, nothing is supposed to fit a full rack of the long-range weapons and still fit a huge tank. If you're having trouble with Heavy Pulse lasers and fitting a tank, then that's a problem.

Also, Legion's fitting issues have nothing on the Loki's fitting issues.
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#32 - 2014-08-25 14:06:26 UTC
Ghaustyl Kathix wrote:
Asa Shahni wrote:
Legion cant even fit a full rack of heavy beam laser and come close to 600dps because of fitting issues not to mention ehp problems because of the damn limited PW.
In fairness, nothing is supposed to fit a full rack of the long-range weapons and still fit a huge tank. If you're having trouble with Heavy Pulse lasers and fitting a tank, then that's a problem.

Also, Legion's fitting issues have nothing on the Loki's fitting issues.


Loki pilot checking in. I have more problems with the god-awful slot layouts on the Loki than the fittings.
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