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Anti-Gravity Low Module.

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Navie
LoneStar Dynamics
#1 - 2014-08-10 17:09:02 UTC
I think it would be interesting to test an anti-gravity module out... Stats would read something like this...

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-25% Jump Mass (Inertia still calculated at full mass)
-25% all resistances.
-25% inertia.

This module can only be refitted inside a station.
No more than 3 of these modules can be used.

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This would mean very large ships like Freighters by fitting 3 of these could get into wormholes, they still take the full mass out of the total stability of the WH and cant be refitted without exiting back into normal space and docking up....

Variations
For Dred/Carrier Transportation
If you wanted to use this to get dreds and carriers into smaller wh's you could try removing the station refitting for "station or pos" refitting (so you cant mobile depot on the inside)...

For Large Mining fleet/Orca's/Battleship transportation
You could try -25% Mass Signature (reducing both jump and w-hole stability size) allowing more ships to pass though a single wh.
ISD Cyberdyne
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#2 - 2014-08-10 19:53:52 UTC
This topic has been moved to "Features and Ideas Discussion" from "Wormholes", as F&I is the appropriate sub-forum for this topic. Thanks!

ISD Cyberdyne

Lieutenant Commander

Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)

Interstellar Services Department
Daoden
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2014-08-10 19:59:46 UTC
The abuse this would have wouldn't make it worth it, further more it would give power to the already more powerful alliances. WH space is more or less meant for the smaller groups rather then the capital blob. WH space is meant to not be easy to access as well.
Jur Tissant
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2014-08-10 20:51:35 UTC
I don't have enough WH experience to comment on the suggestion, but I'm not sure why you would call it an anti-gravity module. Gravity has a negligible effect in most of the EVE universe.
Jason Pareka
Shore Leave Inc.
#5 - 2014-08-10 21:46:02 UTC
Jur Tissant wrote:
I don't have enough WH experience to comment on the suggestion, but I'm not sure why you would call it an anti-gravity module. Gravity has a negligible effect in most of the EVE universe.


that and gravity doesn't affect how much mass there is.



also there is a reason these ships are not able to get into some WHs it is a part of balancing that how the different classes fit into their role
epicurus ataraxia
Illusion of Solitude.
Illusion of Solitude
#6 - 2014-08-10 23:05:07 UTC  |  Edited by: epicurus ataraxia
This would be simply used for allowing the exploiting of mechanics put in place to prevent exactly this, there is no other role.
If you were suggesting it as a fitting to specialist ships for hole rolling that would be a different matter, but your whole justification is to allow forbidden mechanics.

So fit in null or LS

Caps in low class wormholes and .....

Suddenly caps in hisec!

And no that would NOT be fun.

So exploit module not approved.
-1

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Ncc 1709
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Pandemic Horde
#7 - 2014-08-10 23:55:41 UTC
one of these mods on a hel would let it into a wh...
with 3 per ship, you could get maybe 5 supers in through a single wh.
epicurus ataraxia
Illusion of Solitude.
Illusion of Solitude
#8 - 2014-08-11 00:39:30 UTC
And she would have got away with it if it wasn't for us meddling kids.......™ Big smile

There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE
Navie
LoneStar Dynamics
#9 - 2014-08-11 01:31:48 UTC
I dont think you understand...

Im saying... you cant refit this inside the WH so yes you could bring in a very large ship.... but it would be significantly nurfed for stats, and wh's have a 300k mass per jump limit so you cant just put only 1 module on. AND your total mass is still subtracted from the total so only 1-2 cap could go though before the wh is gone.

Lastly the name... is just a name i came up with on short notice.
Jason Pareka
Shore Leave Inc.
#10 - 2014-08-11 11:17:50 UTC
Navie wrote:
I think it would be interesting to test an anti-gravity module out... Stats would read something like this...

Variations
For Dred/Carrier Transportation
If you wanted to use this to get dreds and carriers into smaller wh's you could try removing the station refitting for "station or pos" refitting (so you cant mobile depot on the inside)...

For Large Mining fleet/Orca's/Battleship transportation
You could try -25% Mass Signature (reducing both jump and w-hole stability size) allowing more ships to pass though a single wh.


First i don't want suppers in WH mine or anyone's a lot of us came here to get away from suppers and capital blobs also right here you say that capitals would not be nerfed since they can refit at a POS.

now i would like to know how you plan to fit one of these on a supper as well since they can't use a POS to fit or a station

finally this brings them into HS and no one needs that
Harvey James
The Sengoku Legacy
#11 - 2014-08-11 11:22:24 UTC
gravity in space?? .. am i missing something here??

T3's need to be versatile so no rigs are necessary ... they should not have OP dps and tank

ABC's should be T2, remove drone assist, separate HAM's and Torps range, -3 HS for droneboats

Nerf web strength, Make the blaster Eagle worth using
Jason Pareka
Shore Leave Inc.
#12 - 2014-08-11 11:43:11 UTC
Harvey James wrote:
gravity in space?? .. am i missing something here??


Before this gets any further.

So yes, you are missing something there is gravity in space look at the earth it has gravity so does the ISS so do you if there is mas there is gravity.
James Baboli
Warp to Pharmacy
#13 - 2014-08-11 17:21:42 UTC
This module also messes with MWD, AB and align mechanics as currently stated, and allows insane speeds (similar to undoing nano-nerf)

Total mass reduction ends up @ 61%, meaning that 7-10Km/s MWD battleships would be back.

Talking more,

Flying crazier,

And drinking more

Making battleships worth the warp
Fer'isam K'ahn
SAS Veterinarians
#14 - 2014-08-11 17:41:35 UTC
epicurus ataraxia wrote:
This would be simply used for allowing the exploiting of mechanics put in place to prevent exactly this, there is no other role.
If you were suggesting it as a fitting to specialist ships for hole rolling that would be a different matter, but your whole justification is to allow forbidden mechanics.

So fit in null or LS

Caps in low class wormholes and .....

Suddenly caps in hisec!

And no that would NOT be fun.

So exploit module not approved.
-1

This.
Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
#15 - 2014-08-11 17:46:59 UTC
Jur Tissant wrote:
I don't have enough WH experience to comment on the suggestion, but I'm not sure why you would call it an anti-gravity module. Gravity has a negligible effect in most of the EVE universe.

Perhaps call it anti-boson field generator?

EvE-Mail me if you need anything.
epicurus ataraxia
Illusion of Solitude.
Illusion of Solitude
#16 - 2014-08-11 21:37:10 UTC  |  Edited by: epicurus ataraxia
Arya Regnar wrote:
Jur Tissant wrote:
I don't have enough WH experience to comment on the suggestion, but I'm not sure why you would call it an anti-gravity module. Gravity has a negligible effect in most of the EVE universe.

Perhaps call it anti-boson field generator?



@OP Honestly just call it a bad idea, be an example to CCP and please just drop it.
And lets just pretend we never saw it.

Not getting at you, but not a good idea. Too many downsides.
Your next idea may be fantastic, always good to have ideas.

There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#17 - 2014-08-11 22:36:40 UTC
OP, I can identify with your cause.

I too wish to bring a Hel into Dodixie, and feel that these lowslot modules of yours will be exactly the answer to this dream that fuels my most burning passions.

In other words..

..you clearly didn't stop and think about how this can - and will - be abused before posting it.

No. In all possible languages, no.