Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Suppose it would be rude of me not to respond to such a lengthy reply.

On your final remarks, I do not have to prove anything, I am stating my opinion.

But I am seeing that other games are coming out with greater and more powerful graphics, as I said, higher res models and full 3D support.

When I play Eve I want to marvel at the craft, at the wonder of space how it could look in a REAL galactical environment. It is almost there, I believe, just needs a tad more to push it back up to among the best looking games on the market.

Of course, looks are not everything but they do add rather than the converse to the experience.

And if CCP did not consider they require better models then WHY DID THEY DESIGN THEM!!?? Because they have been made, it is just the client or whatever that needs upgrading.

It's all well and good to say, "We like Eve the way it is now, please don't change a thing!" You can't stand still and expect people to stay, or be charged £15 a month!!

CCP are not standing still, I would say, but they may need to get the priorities in order.

At least changing the explosions for ships as they have in World Of Tanks would be a small graphical upgrade. As for the problem with 100+ battles going on with all that animation, that would be down to the quality of the user's hardware settings, so long as Eve supplied the content, which at the moment they don't (they only give a 'token' explosion which looks a bit poor)!



This last quote is the view of many. Why should we not have BOTH! Great gameplay AND greater graphics!? There should be no conflict between the two.

Eve was ahead of it's time when it came out - now graphically is it starting to lag behind (3D support for example). Whether we face up to this sooner rather than later is a matter of course.

Is ship customization (paint, skins) dead in the water at this point?

you have a lot of I wants now don't you? Clearly the community wants and your wants are a tad.... Separated.

First lets start with the top. "I wants" will not get you anything. I want to beable to run more then 10 clients at once without everything lagging to hell. But, sadly that I want isn't going to make CCP code the game to be more friendly for my computer.

You should look into something called aesthetic vs graphics. You don't need WTF graphics to make things aesthetic pleasing and immersive. Clearly you have your definitions mixed up.

Why did they design better models? Proof of concept that they can make bigger and more bad ass art, the problem they are most likely having is how the client is design. Putting a bad ass model with trefecta polygons into a game that can only support basic block polygons can cause results of the models being displayed just as before, or causing the entire client's graphical engine to crash.

as for being charged 15 euros amonth, that isn't bad, seeing that the activation fee is like only 5, and the expansion packs are all free.

Much better then some unname games *WoW cough* where they force you to pay 60 american dollars for the base game, 12 to 14 dollar monthly fee, and 60 american dollars for each expansion pack.

As a programmer myself, I will end with this food note. Programming isn't easy, attempting to change the engine is like ripping out the center of a jigsaw puzzle, getting a new and totally different jigsaw puzzle, and hoping the pieces of new said puzzle will fit in the center of the old jigsaw puzzle :)

right cause no one plays mine craft



they share a budgeting plan

Sorry, I just re-read my reply - cosmic anomalies are wishful thinking (hoping) on my part.

Graphics in EVE are upgraded constantly. I think its happened 2-3 times already.
Nothing wrong with Eves graphics, it's the gameplay that is still stuck in 2003, especially PVE.
Non-engaging, low interest-factor, little happening in missions/ratting.

I'm typing this while I mission with 2 ships for example.
Flying just 1 ship is oh so boring.

Instead of graphics overhaul this game could use gamplay-overhaul.
Less about time spent training skills and more about actual skills.


Could we get the red crosses moved ABOVE the ships already? Watching red icons isn't interesting, I can't even see the ship models.

This attempt with irony isn't successfull - minecraft brought literally a fortune to its creator(s)

I agree, graphics should be renewed from time to time, but the most significant drawback of Eve is in somewhat flawed mechanics and somewhat lack of variety in content (do pew-pew in space, do things for pew-pew in space, gather mats to do things for pew-pew in space, gather people to do pew-pew in space)

Absolutely correct.

Simple equation.

Improve the PVE experience , and PVP will follow.

Poor PVE experience, fewer players, less vitality, poorer PVP.
Both pay to keep the hamsters spinning.

Why do some people think otherwise?

They have had enough experience by now, and had their noses rubbed in it time and time again, when every time they try to make things easier for PVP at the expense of PVE the PvP experience gets way way worse after a few weeks.

Hint, PVE players play to have fun, they do not pay to be harder working victims, many will also PVP if it's fun.

Actually this not always the case. There has been a marked increase in the popularity on independent/non AAA gaming in recent years.

most of these titles are not graphical stunners. I'd be looking at Papers Please. It got great critical review. And players loved it. Even Yahtzee at the escapist liked it and that guy tears apart just anything.

Looking at my recent buys, which many also have bought, I see this trend clearly. KSP, shadowrun returns, prison architect....none of these wow you with graphics. The magic is the game itself. And there is ofc minecraft.

The trend here is many players are moving away from AAA gamings pretty graphics as its only feature. Rest of the game is crap....but damn it is pretty. Many gamers these days are starting to go pretty steaming pile of crap is well....still a steaming pile of crap.

Hate to sound eve-elitist but...if a player leaves eve because not the prettiest game, well its best they leave. We don't need eve impressing this crowd at the cost of fixing what actually needs to be fixed. I for example want blops fixed. I don't want whiz bang graphics for them. Oh hell yeah...my widows looks super sexy sitting in safe system running a portal. I want it on grid and not jsut a bridge not being an easy 1 bil full fit target lol. In a case like this, function > appearance.