EVE General Discussion

That i can agree with RG

the problem with mining, actually has nothing to do with mining.

it's a problem rooted so far in the PVE side of eve that it's near impossible to pull out. that very simple fact is; pve in eve (and by extension, most isk making activities in eve) are nothing more than 'lock target, f1, receive isk'. until that fundamental fact is changed, mining, missioning, and isk making in general from pve activities will never be "better" or "more fun".

As I said. It's nothing personal, sorry.

All PVE activities in all games regardless is repetitive, heck you could argue pvp can be the same, but ppl enjoy it still, why is of no concern of your's or mine the fact remains ppl do it. an ppl enjoy doing it, that alone is reason enough to do something with it

the first step towards that would be to stop punishing players for interacting while doing pve. with the exception of incursions, i can't think of a single pve activity in eve that gets better when you work with another actual person.

you might argue mining, but stacking +1 alts isn't interacting with other people. once you have your own orca pilot you do everything within your power to distance yourself from other players as you compete for resources.
missions naturally cut you off from other players with their little deadspace pockets, and further isolate you when grouping up to do missions reduces your income (which, let's face it, is why people do missions).

once we stop pve punishing people for interacting with other players, then we'll see more emergent gameplay (which invariably leads to pvp).

I know seagull said she wanted to add new missons but i kinda laughed when i read it. other than having to memorise another handful of triggers, and another handful to reflexively decline due to crappy standing losses... they're going to add nothing to the game and take up time that could be spent actually fixing something. i'm sure if you can design a mission, you can redesign something that's actually broken. you know, like changing the formula for splitting mission rewards to be a negative exponential or something, rather than linear so that there's a reason to grab a corp member and run a few missions with them.

Wouldn't it be nice for "i'm just doing some missions" to mean "i'm making a bit of isk, come and join me" rather than "leave me alone and stop distracting me while i grind isk"?



the difference between repetitive pvp and repetitive pve? you're likely to be doing pvp in a group rather than on your own as you do in pve.

mindless repetition can be fun when you're doing it with people you enjoy spending time with. it's a shame pve doesn't encourage that.

wierd i pve in groups an pvp solo

lemme rephrase that, i pve in groups and solo, i pvp in groups and solo

I think that was a compliment.

mining drones already exist. :P

Want to make mining interesting?

This idea came to me when i was making breakfast

1. Buy Mackinaw
2. Buy Officer Mining implant ( Michi's or something )
3. Fit it with a deadspace tank
4. go to a busy .5 and start mining

It gets interesting because you have to avoid everyone who wants to kill you and blap your pod!

I think you should stick to making breakfasts.