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Shock and Awe: Kaalakiota Corporation Witnesses 123,918 Slaves Killed

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Quin Mansa
Doomheim
#61 - 2014-08-06 14:29:03 UTC
I have struggled in my prayers for Nauplius to return to God's path for the Chosen and to the struggle of true Reclaiming, but I fear God's answer to me is that Nauplius is creating his own struggles out of bewilderment and desperation. God's trials for each of us are different, so Nauplius must face his own trials, as it is with me. While I feel my frustration about his actions, like those of the recent terror attacks in Empire space, I know that this is a sign from God that my trials will only grow more difficult in the time to come.

For these reasons, I feel I cannot give up on Nauplius, as I cannot give up on returning any of God's children to the divine grace of His light. I will continue to pray that he see that the massacre of the unwashed does not bring all souls back to God's light, and thus does not serve the purpose of the Chosen in New Eden. God's test for him is not yet over.

Nor is it so with any of God's children here and now.

"Today, our future is in our hands, and His light shines down upon us." - Her Holiness Catiz I

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#62 - 2014-08-06 17:27:10 UTC
Marcus Gord wrote:
I actually find myself in agreement with Ms Kim.

I think I need a drink.

This I can provide.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Marcus Gord
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#63 - 2014-08-07 09:58:51 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Marcus Gord wrote:
I actually find myself in agreement with Ms Kim.

I think I need a drink.

This I can provide.


I'll make my own tea, if that's what you were thinking.

In a few moments you will have an experience that will seem completely real. It will be the result of your subconscious fears transformed to your conscious awareness.

http://i.imgur.com/LM2NKUf.png

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#64 - 2014-08-07 11:35:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Diana Kim
Hey~
I can do very good tea.
And very, very very, very good coffee!

Although I was thinking at first about fresh clean water.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Steffanie Saissore
Tyrathlion Interstellar
#65 - 2014-08-09 11:39:38 UTC
Quin Mansa wrote:
I have struggled in my prayers for Nauplius to return to God's path for the Chosen and to the struggle of true Reclaiming, but I fear God's answer to me is that Nauplius is creating his own struggles out of bewilderment and desperation. God's trials for each of us are different, so Nauplius must face his own trials, as it is with me. While I feel my frustration about his actions, like those of the recent terror attacks in Empire space, I know that this is a sign from God that my trials will only grow more difficult in the time to come.

For these reasons, I feel I cannot give up on Nauplius, as I cannot give up on returning any of God's children to the divine grace of His light. I will continue to pray that he see that the massacre of the unwashed does not bring all souls back to God's light, and thus does not serve the purpose of the Chosen in New Eden. God's test for him is not yet over.

Nor is it so with any of God's children here and now.


I wish you the best of luck holding to not giving up on the man; from what I have seen I doubt there is any returning to the fold for him.

We travel in the dark of the new moon,

A starry highway traced on the map of the sky

Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#66 - 2014-08-09 18:24:15 UTC
Marcus Gord wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Marcus Gord wrote:
I actually find myself in agreement with Ms Kim.

I think I need a drink.

This I can provide.


I'll make my own tea, if that's what you were thinking.


Sorry to intervene, but I find your reasoning to be far off.
It is no about Caldari laws, the legal status of slaves or the territory it took place.
Killing so many civilians - regardless of legal status- is simply rude and tasteless.
Culture and education is what differentiates us from the Minmatar. If we commit acts of barbarism like this, we only show that we are no better than them.
We accepted the responsibility to provide tutelage and moral guidance to those poor little creatures, so I cannot condone masss killings of them.

But what me concerns even more are his words :

Nauplius wrote:
There will be none because on that glorious day when the Reunited Amarr-Blood Raider Empire-Covenant fully embraces the True Faith and gives the order for the total extermination of the Minmatar people...


Now just wait a minute...Reunited Amarr-Blood Raider Empire-Covenant?
Seriously?
We know the Theology Council's stance on the Blood Raider cult..and insinuating that there could ever be a compromise between our holy religion and the pagan blood cults is heresy in every senes of the words.
And I guesss you know the Empire's stance on heretics?

Since other posters already offered a bounty for his head, I suggest to have this deviant turned over to the Theology Council on Amarr prime afterwards.
I am sure the Council will be eager to ask him a few questions.
And don't worry, your thirst for revenge should be fully satisfied once the Imperial Inquisition is through with him.

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#67 - 2014-08-10 05:57:44 UTC
Zimmy Zeta wrote:

Sorry to intervene, but I find your reasoning to be far off.
It is no about Caldari laws, the legal status of slaves or the territory it took place.
Killing so many civilians - regardless of legal status- is simply rude and tasteless.
Culture and education is what differentiates us from the Minmatar. If we commit acts of barbarism like this, we only show that we are no better than them.
We accepted the responsibility to provide tutelage and moral guidance to those poor little creatures, so I cannot condone masss killings of them.

Ms. Zeta, please excuse me, but you can't detain people for being rude and tasteless.
I would gladely arrest all gallentean kakku and wannabe gallentean kakku, that bathe in tasteless luxury and enjoy decadent trash, that they call art.
But, unfortunately, there is no law against this... yet.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Kohiko Sun
Stormcrows
#68 - 2014-08-10 08:24:43 UTC
Morijah d'Hanguest wrote:
Mr Hakatain

To make manifest our deep friendship with the Caldari State and its citizens, I have signed a decree that authorises the granting of honorary military titles of the Ducal Palasian Squadron [DPS] to members of the eight great corporations. The payment of 100.000.000 ISK is combined with the title.

Regards
Morijah d’Hanguest

Eh! This will be interesting. I never expected to have a title that would be polite to say, honorary or not, from the Kingdom.

I invite you to contact Jude or myself at your convenience. It is our pleasure to be of service to the Duchess d'Hanguest once more.
Samira Kernher
Cail Avetatu
#69 - 2014-08-10 08:41:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Samira Kernher
Congratulations to Mr. Kopenhagen and Ms. Sun on their kill. It was an honor to be there to personally witness the victory with my camera drone. The slave butcher's pod managed to slip from me several times back during PIE's war with Hoi Andrapodistai; I am glad that he finally tripped up.

Sadly, I doubt it will lead him to any life-altering revelations.
Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#70 - 2014-08-10 19:01:52 UTC
Samira Kernher wrote:
Congratulations to Mr. Kopenhagen and Ms. Sun on their kill. It was an honor to be there to personally witness the victory with my camera drone. The slave butcher's pod managed to slip from me several times back during PIE's war with Hoi Andrapodistai; I am glad that he finally tripped up.

Sadly, I doubt it will lead him to any life-altering revelations.


Now that was quicker than expected.
Congratulations to the skilled assassins.


Diana Kim wrote:

Ms. Zeta, please excuse me, but you can't detain people for being rude and tasteless.
I would gladely arrest all gallentean kakku and wannabe gallentean kakku, that bathe in tasteless luxury and enjoy decadent trash, that they call art.
But, unfortunately, there is no law against this... yet.


See?
This is why we oppose the Caldari State's foolish insistence on keeping state and church seperated.
Laws should be more than mere regulations...they should be a moral compass and a spiritual guidance that permeates every aspect of life and finally leads to enlightment through conformity.

That being said, provided the Minmatar slaves were workers, I am pretty sure that Mr Nauplius could be convicted even under State law.
Destroying such a large workforce could be easily considered Counterindustrial Terrorism and the defendant could be charged with Crimes against Industry.

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.

Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#71 - 2014-08-10 19:24:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Pieter Tuulinen
Please, don't even try to conflate Diana Kim and the State in order to try and win a debating point. It's the ultimate strawman argument.

Kim-haani does not represent mainstream thinking within the State. She is largely Provist in her views - and a rather extreme form of Provist at that, a True Believer who embraces the Spartan mindset and imbues anything alien to her own way of thinking with mistrust and suspicion.

Kim-haani is a tool crafted for a specific purpose and I think she would have been very happy if she'd never become a capsuleer.

As for Naupilus, we wouldn't need exotic labour laws to prosecute him. The regular ones addressing mass-murder would do just fine - were he not a capsuleer.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#72 - 2014-08-11 00:30:55 UTC
Zimmy Zeta wrote:

See?
This is why we oppose the Caldari State's foolish insistence on keeping state and church seperated.

We don't have "church", but rather lots of different temples and monasteries.
Good luck trying to convince them all joining to government structure. I think you would deserve a medal, if you will convince at least one.

Zimmy Zeta wrote:

That being said, provided the Minmatar slaves were workers, I am pretty sure that Mr Nauplius could be convicted even under State law.
Destroying such a large workforce could be easily considered Counterindustrial Terrorism and the defendant could be charged with Crimes against Industry.

If they were not HIS workers, then it would be a sabotage. But on other hand, no Caldari corporation or citizen owns slaves.
In other words, destruction of any slave doesn't affect Caldari industry at all.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#73 - 2014-08-11 00:35:54 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Please, don't even try to conflate Diana Kim and the State in order to try and win a debating point. It's the ultimate strawman argument.

Kim-haani does not represent mainstream thinking within the State. She is largely Provist in her views - and a rather extreme form of Provist at that, a True Believer who embraces the Spartan mindset and imbues anything alien to her own way of thinking with mistrust and suspicion.

Kim-haani is a tool crafted for a specific purpose and I think she would have been very happy if she'd never become a capsuleer.

As for Naupilus, we wouldn't need exotic labour laws to prosecute him. The regular ones addressing mass-murder would do just fine - were he not a capsuleer.

Oh, such sweet words and "analysis" of someone who is afraid even to meet me to know me better, and evades service to the State as well.

Thanks for the "information", but I would recommend anyone who are interested in me, to look for more reliable sources.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#74 - 2014-08-11 01:41:32 UTC
Zimmy Zeta wrote:
This is why we oppose the Caldari State's foolish insistence on keeping state and church separated.


Where did that remarkable claim come from? I wasn't aware that we insist on any such thing. Wayism and Caldari spirituality permeate every layer of Megacorporate society, from the tea ceremonies and rituals that open and close our board meetings, right down to the foundational philosophy of the State, the Okusaiken, and their internal cultures.

After all, unlike a democracy, the corporations are under no legal or ethical obligation to official impartiality.

What's probably confusing you is that you don't see the presence of religion in the official processes of our society because you don't understand just how different our respective religious outlooks really are.

The theological underpinnings of the Empire give rise to its hierarchy of heathens, slaves, free commoners, Holders, Nobles, Heirs, The Emperor and God, and the highly limited or nonexistent mobility between those categories. A commoner is NEVER going to be Emperor because that's not their place in the divine order. All of this is because, in Amarr, "God [...] breathed life into his creation, divided the parts and gave each its place and unto each, bestowed purpose.". Everything has its divinely ordained role to play, the place where it has been instructed to belong.

Wayism teaches more or less the precise opposite. in Wayism, the Maker created the universe and left it in chaos for humanity and the spirits to forge our own order and find for ourselves our own places and purpose within it. And the philosophical structures of Wayism are as integral to Caldari corporate meritocracy as Amarr is to the Empire. In our philosophy, a person's place in the system is something they define, attain and retain on merit through hard work and dedication to their duties, rather than being something they're assigned by higher and more powerful forces.

So, no, we don't believe in church/state separation. That would require us to have a state in that sense which, name notwithstanding, the State does not. It would require us to have a church, an organised religious arbiter of official dogma and authority, which Wayism broadly lacks. It would require us to have a good reason to keep them distinct which, being corporations rather than representatives with a duty to neutrality, we lack.

Arguing that we're resolutely in favour of church-state separation only tells me, Pilot Zeta, that you understand little to nothing about the way the State is organised, and the nature of its major religions.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders

Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#75 - 2014-08-11 02:35:41 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Please, don't even try to conflate Diana Kim and the State in order to try and win a debating point. It's the ultimate strawman argument.

Kim-haani does not represent mainstream thinking within the State. She is largely Provist in her views - and a rather extreme form of Provist at that, a True Believer who embraces the Spartan mindset and imbues anything alien to her own way of thinking with mistrust and suspicion.

Kim-haani is a tool crafted for a specific purpose and I think she would have been very happy if she'd never become a capsuleer.

As for Naupilus, we wouldn't need exotic labour laws to prosecute him. The regular ones addressing mass-murder would do just fine - were he not a capsuleer.

Oh, such sweet words and "analysis" of someone who is afraid even to meet me to know me better, and evades service to the State as well.

Thanks for the "information", but I would recommend anyone who are interested in me, to look for more reliable sources.


Ask anyone you trust, Kim-haani. That was a pretty fair treatment of you.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#76 - 2014-08-11 02:42:48 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Please, don't even try to conflate Diana Kim and the State in order to try and win a debating point. It's the ultimate strawman argument.

Kim-haani does not represent mainstream thinking within the State. She is largely Provist in her views - and a rather extreme form of Provist at that, a True Believer who embraces the Spartan mindset and imbues anything alien to her own way of thinking with mistrust and suspicion.

Kim-haani is a tool crafted for a specific purpose and I think she would have been very happy if she'd never become a capsuleer.

As for Naupilus, we wouldn't need exotic labour laws to prosecute him. The regular ones addressing mass-murder would do just fine - were he not a capsuleer.

Oh, such sweet words and "analysis" of someone who is afraid even to meet me to know me better, and evades service to the State as well.

Thanks for the "information", but I would recommend anyone who are interested in me, to look for more reliable sources.


Ask anyone you trust, Kim-haani. That was a pretty fair treatment of you.


Assuming she has anyone she trusts.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Anslo
Scope Works
#77 - 2014-08-11 03:11:34 UTC
Oh look. A new toy to break.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]

Lunarisse Aspenstar
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#78 - 2014-08-11 04:02:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Lunarisse Aspenstar
Nauplius wrote:
There shall be many more lessons to come.


How many more lessons do you need that God frowns upon your fevered imaginings? Each and every single one one of the souls of the defenseless 138,000, denied their chance for life and to learn the True Faith, cries to the high heavens for vengeance.

I urge you learn from your own recent lessons, to repent, recant your heresies, and to submit yourself, completely and totally in mind and body, to the Empire for judgment as you tremble that God does not have Mercy, and that you must throw yourself at the feet of the Divine Empress for disposition as she wills?