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Death's Lolita

Soldiers Of Industry

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#1 - 2011-12-08 02:45:36 UTC

hey, i have been out of Eve for a while now, and i am looking to put all the skills i have trained to good use.
so the question is, What ship should i buy?

so i come to you,
what is the best tank in game?
what ship can i park in any lvl 4 mission and walk away while drones or noobs in corp run clean up?

i have heard domi, nightmare, nighthawk, machariel, and many of the regular and faction BS named.

what is your advice and with what fit?

(GO EFT WARRIORS!!!)

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Ines Tegator Serious Business Inc. Ltd. LLC. etc. Likes received: 610	#2 - 2011-12-08 02:50:50 UTC Any BS can be fitted with that kind of tank if you wanted, and are willing to sacrifice DPS. However, only drone boats are good for AFKing. That limits you to domi/rattlesnake. Overhaul Dscan!

Death's Lolita

Soldiers Of Industry

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#3 - 2011-12-08 03:01:17 UTC

as i stated above, i am looking for something high end for lvl 4 missions lol, i have a few BS in my hanger for solo ratting and for damage absorption, but in the last year or so alot has changed in EVE, thus the question, and the need for an update. also i have trained ALOT of skills to lvl 5.... thus looking for something a lil better than a domi or even a faction domi lol :)

in the end the decision will be between a machariel and a nighthawk if i dont get much feedback here :)

1-Up Mushroom

Imperial Academy

Amarr Empire

Likes received: 5,214

#4 - 2011-12-08 03:16:42 UTC | Edited by: 1-Up Mushroom

[Rattlesnake, New Setup 1]
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II

Pith X-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Pith X-Type Ballistic Deflection Field
Pith X-Type Ballistic Deflection Field
Pith X-Type Heat Dissipation Field
Pith X-Type Heat Dissipation Field

Rocket Launcher II, Gremlin Rocket
Drone Link Augmentor II
Drone Link Augmentor II
Small Tractor Beam II
Small Tractor Beam II
Salvager II

Large Capacitor Control Circuit II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I

Ogre II x5
Ogre II x11

4655 Serpentis Tank, could probably solo tank the Serpentis Blockade while hitting every trigger

Can downgrade to T2 resists if you want, but no mission will every break your tank, no matter if you hit all the triggers (as long as you fit correct resists), Now if you want a omni-tank

[Rattlesnake, New Setup 1]
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II

Gist X-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Gist X-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field
Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field
Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field

Rocket Launcher II, Gremlin Rocket
Drone Link Augmentor II
Drone Link Augmentor II
Small Tractor Beam II
Small Tractor Beam II
Salvager II

Large Capacitor Control Circuit II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I

Ogre II x5
Ogre II x11

Yea... 3450 Omni-tank, higher with serps/guristas/angel/etc., lower with sansha/blood/etc., but it's like 3b worth, but if you mission in a quiet spot you probably won't get ganked Blink

Now if you want to tank some fool megathron or guristas, and your absolutely crazy you can use this lol..
[Tengu, New Setup 1]
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II

Pith X-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Pith X-Type Ballistic Deflection Field
Pith X-Type Ballistic Deflection Field
Pith X-Type Heat Dissipation Field

[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Core Defence Operational Solidifier I

Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
Tengu Electronics - CPU Efficiency Gate
Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst

13k Guristas Tank lol

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SpaceSquirrels Likes received: 285	#5 - 2011-12-08 03:59:51 UTC How would you afk in anything but a drone boat?...Which makes your choices obvious unless you're looking for a bot boat.

Misanthra

Alternative Enterprises

Likes received: 60

#6 - 2011-12-08 04:14:17 UTC

SpaceSquirrels wrote:

How would you afk in anything but a drone boat?...Which makes your choices obvious unless you're looking for a bot boat.

fof missiles. Semi afk, have to be htere for reloads and firing up again. Almost the same thing. Drones techically you have to alt tab back for to watch aggro shifts so kind of similar actually.

Nighthawk does this well I hear. tengu should be pro at it as well. . Might have to actually target webbers is all. If memory serves, high skill looking at like 3 minutes ish run times till launchers are dry.


SpaceSquirrels Likes received: 285	#7 - 2011-12-08 04:20:49 UTC Fof's yeah I suppose... not all that efficient though.

Misanthra

Alternative Enterprises

Likes received: 60

#8 - 2011-12-08 04:37:15 UTC

SpaceSquirrels wrote:

Fof's yeah I suppose... not all that efficient though.

neither is afk rattler lol.

I run my rattler being there. Focus fire sentries and cruise with TP/cn bcu and speeds up BS kills decent. Also prevents your sentries wasting time on frigates. Watched them killing frigates once....paint dries faster. this Federal omni and sentry augment rig on the fit. Would try 2 federals for more but there anyway, rahter have the tp for the cruise. I light/med the small crap.

Some interesting torp fits out there as well for moar dps.

hiporiko

Hyena Capital Management

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#9 - 2011-12-08 04:37:37 UTC | Edited by: hiporiko

Death's Lolita wrote:

You're confusing appearance with performance. It doesn't matter if you have every skill at level 5. The fact is, nothing competes with the Dominix, Ishtar, or Rattlesnake for afk mission running in high-sec. If you're looking to brag, install T2 purgers on a Rattlesnake at 300 million a piece.

A Tachyon Nightmare will melt drones, Sansha/Blood Raiders, Serpentis/Gallente, and Mercenary rats so quick it will make you laugh.

The CNR is an excellent jack of all trades boat but even with perfect skills waiting for the missiles to make impact becomes frustrating.

The Tengu is undeniably the most versatile pve ship you can buy - Its only real weakness is against laser based targets.

The Mach is severely overrated and fails to shine in one specific arena.

And the Nighthawk does the same lousy dps as a Tengu with the Rifling Launcher Pattern subsystem installed (drones) which I do not recommend.

Then again, what do I know.

Master Ventris

Rogue Pioneers

Likes received: 5

#10 - 2011-12-08 17:21:26 UTC

[Sleipnir, Combat Tank]
Tobias' Modified Gyrostabilizer
Tobias' Modified Gyrostabilizer
Tobias' Modified Gyrostabilizer
Damage Control II
Estamel's Modified Co-Processor

Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800
Estamel's Modified X-Large Shield Booster
Estamel's Modified Invulnerability Field
Estamel's Modified Invulnerability Field
Estamel's Modified Shield Boost Amplifier

425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M
425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M
425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M
425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M
425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M
425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M
425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M
[empty high slot]

Medium Core Defence Operational Solidifier II
Medium Core Defence Operational Solidifier II

A mindlinked tengu and a guardian feeding you cap are needed, but with heat this omnitanks 40,000 DPS while throwing 900 DPS back.

(It actually can replenish its entire shields every 1.9 seconds)

I love EFT Big smile

Orlacc

Likes received: 961

#11 - 2011-12-08 20:28:47 UTC

Master Ventris wrote:

Where do you do most of your flying?

"Measure Twice, Cut Once."

Enduros

UK Corp

Goonswarm Federation

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#12 - 2011-12-08 22:18:29 UTC

Orlacc wrote:

Master Ventris wrote:

Where do you do most of your flying?

if you need to restore all your shields every 1.9 sec odds are you are gonna alpha'd the next volley

Buzzmong

Aliastra

Gallente Federation

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#13 - 2011-12-08 23:58:30 UTC | Edited by: Buzzmong

With regards to the specifics of AFK level 4 tanking:

Rattlesnake if you want to throw money at it (and later move to lvl 5's) and truely want to afk as much as possible.

Dominix if you just want to afk level 4's and you don't want to throw ISK at it and don't mind 30 seconds setting up your afk-ness.

Both are slow as afk drone boats, but as you're afk, that's kinda moot.

Domi is generally best fitted with dual LAR, 4x active hardeners, cap mods in mids/rigs and a couple of drone ranges up top. Stick on a civvie gun for aggro. Sebo helps if you want to draw room aggro from distant targets then properly go afk.

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Silber Zidayn Doomheim Likes received: 6	#14 - 2011-12-09 00:54:02 UTC Ask for EFT warriors. Get EFT warriors. Domi - Cheap AFK but slow and you need sentry drones. If you have Corp bots to dps for you this will be even easier. Rattlesnake - Want to spend too much and be invincible.

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Imperial Academy

Amarr Empire

Likes received: 137

#15 - 2011-12-09 01:21:54 UTC

Death's Lolita wrote:

so i come to you,
what is the best tank in game?
what ship can i park in any lvl 4 mission and walk away while drones or noobs in corp run clean up?

i have heard domi, nightmare, nighthawk, machariel, and many of the regular and faction BS named.

Most people already said it - for the purpose of tanking in a mission and go afk, the rattlesnake is the ship of choice.
I's the only ship I have used truly afk, simply because:

- All non-drone boats need you to lock targets manually (haven't tried FoF missiles, but you'll need to start firing manually again once the launchers reloaded, which would be a necessity in most mission rooms so it's not truly afk).
- It has cruises to comfortably pull stage aggro (triggering all spawns and pulling full stage aggro before popping out drones is kinda tedious in e.g. an ishtar).
- Most ships with an active tank require some kind of tank/cap managing (e.g. a single rep domi is not sufficient to tank peak dps in many missions, a dual rep domi requires rep/cap management).

It's the only ship you can fly into most missions, trigger all spawns and pull agggro for a minute, launch drones and then minimize the client until you can be bothered to check again.

Since you mentioned to go for a mach in you later post: The machs tank is its tremendous dps and damage projection in combination with its speed - whilst I usually use a mach, it's probably the worst choice for afk missioning.

Flying a mach, you'll need to lock targets continuously because they melt that quickly, so you don't need to tank - the tank itself is its actual weakness.

Nightmare is similar - it requires you to lock targets and requires some cap management, so no afk boat.

On a side note: If you really just want to tank the mission whilst others complete it, just use any fast frigate-hull that can perma-run its prop-mod and a repper/shield booster, pull stage aggro and orbit something in a 100 km-ish orbit afterwards.

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Salvia Olima The Scope Gallente Federation Likes received: 56	#16 - 2011-12-09 07:54:38 UTC "what is the best tank in game?" Just use a 100MN AB Tengu and orbit something @ 40-50km. Kill the web/scram frigs first, get full aggro, watch and laugh as no dmg comes to you. Let the others do the rest, fire some missiles if you like or just be semi-afk.

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People's Republic ofChina My Other Capital Ship is Your Mom Likes received: 95	#17 - 2011-12-09 10:12:40 UTC hiporiko wrote: The Mach is severely overrated and fails to shine in one specific arena. Which is...?

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Arthur Frayn V.O.F.L IRON CORE Likes received: 82	#18 - 2011-12-09 10:45:11 UTC 1 People's Republic ofChina wrote: hiporiko wrote: The Mach is severely overrated and fails to shine in one specific arena. Which is...? Mining, obviously.

hiporiko

Hyena Capital Management

Likes received: 13

#19 - 2011-12-09 13:11:04 UTC | Edited by: hiporiko

People's Republic ofChina wrote:

hiporiko wrote:

The Mach is severely overrated and fails to shine in one specific arena.

Which is...?

You didn't understand the comment.

When compared to a Nightmare, Tengu, CNR, etc. there is no one venue/rat that the Machariel absolutely dominates. Anyone who thinks it is the end-game boat to pilot for PvE is dead wrong. Its nothing more than an overpriced Sleipnir.