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Customs Office being taken over as normal by big corps

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DarkAegix
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2011-12-09 00:44:18 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Small corp of friends > large alliance of strangers

5 Maelstroms > 50 Aeons?
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#42 - 2011-12-09 00:48:38 UTC
May present to you the wonderful and amazing term known as a business agreement?

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Blood Fart
Rock Hard Productions
#43 - 2011-12-09 00:51:04 UTC
So....small corps can't hit these things over the course of a few days and cause a lot of repping which puts out quite a few alliance members that own them?

Oh wait there are ways but it requires some work and politics and possibly some shooting and danger and wearwolves and viruses and.....
Cloora
APEX Unlimited
APEX Conglomerate
#44 - 2011-12-09 00:54:02 UTC
Psychophantic wrote:
Cloora wrote:
Our tiny tiny alliance


71 people.

Bet you couldn't tell me their first names.

Welcome to EvE, hang out with people you don't know, don't care about and don't want to know in order to succeed.


Lol guess how many are my alts alone?

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Shivus Tao
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#45 - 2011-12-09 00:55:49 UTC
OCCUPY INTERBUS

WE ARE THE 99%!
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#46 - 2011-12-09 00:59:10 UTC
Psychophantic wrote:
Cloora wrote:
Our tiny tiny alliance


71 people.

Bet you couldn't tell me their first names.

Welcome to the internet, hang out with people you don't know as well as you think you do, don't care deeply about and don't want to know too personally in order to socialize and have fun.


FYP

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Thomas Orca
Broski is ded
#47 - 2011-12-09 00:59:18 UTC
Psychophantic wrote:
Cloora wrote:
Our tiny tiny alliance


71 people.

Bet you couldn't tell me their first names.

Welcome to EvE, hang out with people you don't know, don't care about and don't want to know in order to succeed.


Confirming that alts don't exist in EVE. Also confirming that you have to know someone's real name to hang out with them on the internet.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#48 - 2011-12-09 01:24:53 UTC
Lone Gunman wrote:
Yes they are leaving them open to neutrals but at 10% same tax rate as High so why go to Low or Null.
For the same reason(s) you went to low or null before the patch.
Apollo Gabriel
Kill'em all. Let Bob sort'em out.
Ushra'Khan
#49 - 2011-12-09 01:26:27 UTC
Why would you think a 2 man corp could compete? You say you love eve, but hate its freedom? If you're gonna be a 2man corp you gotta have the balls to make it. Hire mercs to keep ya safe, but don't ***** cause you can't take on a blizzard as a snowflake.
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Apollo Gabriel
Kill'em all. Let Bob sort'em out.
Ushra'Khan
#50 - 2011-12-09 01:27:27 UTC
lab geek011 wrote:
Dorian Wylde wrote:
lab geek011 wrote:


yes people will say join bigger corps or have more people but some of us dont want that its like a corner shop owner vs a large megastore



You may want to open a newspaper from anywhere in the last 30 years.


still think there should be a limit on how many can be had


THERE ARE LIMITS!!!

HOW MANY YOU CAN PROTECT!

YOU CAN PROTECT 0,

get it?


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Psychophantic
#51 - 2011-12-09 01:49:04 UTC
Cloora wrote:
Psychophantic wrote:
Cloora wrote:
Our tiny tiny alliance


71 people.

Bet you couldn't tell me their first names.

Welcome to EvE, hang out with people you don't know, don't care about and don't want to know in order to succeed.


Lol guess how many are my alts alone?


Cool. So it only takes multiple people with multiple accounts active round the clock to protect a poco.

Comrade Commizzar
Eve Revolutionary Army
#52 - 2011-12-09 02:03:04 UTC
Feligast wrote:
lab geek011 wrote:
yes people will say join bigger corps or have more people but some of us dont want that its like a corner shop owner vs a large megastore


So you know what you need to do to compete, you just refuse to do it... therefore we should feel sorry for you and change the rules to punish those more successful than you.

Gotcha.


No, what he is saying is that there is no reason to gamble in a casino where the cards are marked, the dice are loaded, and the dealers are all crooked. So why play? The results are a foregone conclusion unless you are capable and prepared to use the same game-breaking Metagaming techniques (ala the Goons) to bring either RMT or pilot numbers to bear. He is complaining that the game mechanics CCP has chosen to use arbitrarily favor such Metagamers with "I-Win" buttons, and it shouldn't. If the playing field is inherently uneven, why try?

This is why many people are just moving on to other games.

Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#53 - 2011-12-09 02:06:11 UTC
For a one man corp I do say I have managed to compete against others in my business in my area, then again I as assuming they're just learning the ropes.

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Kent Reeves
#54 - 2011-12-09 02:10:00 UTC
lab geek011 wrote:
Krios Ahzek wrote:
Why should two guys in a two man corp be able to own more POCOs than two guys in a 2000 man corp?


I never said that all im saying is that there needs to be a cap as in theory one corp could have all of them in the universe, it could be based on skills in corp management the more members you have in corp the more you can have but it should not be unlimited


This would put more skills to train in corp management and would force players to be a bit more picky when setting up structures. I like this.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#55 - 2011-12-09 02:16:26 UTC
Psychophantic wrote:
Cloora wrote:
Psychophantic wrote:
Cloora wrote:
Our tiny tiny alliance


71 people.

Bet you couldn't tell me their first names.

Welcome to EvE, hang out with people you don't know, don't care about and don't want to know in order to succeed.


Lol guess how many are my alts alone?


Cool. So it only takes multiple people with multiple accounts active round the clock to protect a poco.



You are correct. It is obviously impossible to protect anything in EVE.

That's why thousands of player owned PCO's, POS's, and Outposts do not exist.

What they need is some mechanic in place so that you can choose the best time to defend a structure under attack... some kind of timer..... hmmmmm.

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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#56 - 2011-12-09 02:17:50 UTC
Comrade Commizzar wrote:
Feligast wrote:
lab geek011 wrote:
yes people will say join bigger corps or have more people but some of us dont want that its like a corner shop owner vs a large megastore


So you know what you need to do to compete, you just refuse to do it... therefore we should feel sorry for you and change the rules to punish those more successful than you.

Gotcha.


No, what he is saying is that there is no reason to gamble in a casino where the cards are marked, the dice are loaded, and the dealers are all crooked. So why play? The results are a foregone conclusion unless you are capable and prepared to use the same game-breaking Metagaming techniques (ala the Goons) to bring either RMT or pilot numbers to bear. He is complaining that the game mechanics CCP has chosen to use arbitrarily favor such Metagamers with "I-Win" buttons, and it shouldn't. If the playing field is inherently uneven, why try?

This is why many people are just moving on to other games.



Gosh Comrade, when will it be YOUR turn?

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Pere Madeleine
The Gentlemen of Low Moral Fibre
#57 - 2011-12-09 02:17:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Pere Madeleine
To be perfectly honest, while I do disagree with the OP, I think a small tweak to the POCOs is in order.

At the minute, POCOs can be set to come out of RF in a certain window (2 hrs), so a corp/alliance will set ALL their POCOs to come out in their peak time. This is fine, and it's much preferable to having to micromanage fuel levels etc. However, there's really no advantage to RFing all of a corp's POCOs, since unless you have the numbers to simultaneously hit them all at once when they come out of RF, it's very easy for the owners to defend them anyway. They recharge their shields quickly, so it's only a case of delaying the attackers long enough for them to recharge back up above 25% shields, because then they need RFed again.

The problem is not that large corps are able to have more POCOs, it's that they can only really be taken over if the owners either don't want them, or you're bigger than the owners. I think the best way to change this would be to make it so the POCO didn't need RFed again until its shields had fully recharged, or just reduce their recharge rate.

However, does the OP realise that POCO ownership is transferable, so perhaps he could work out some kind of renting deal with his bigger neighbours? They might be amenable to that, if they're actually in it for isk. They might just be interested in fights ;)
Tore Vest
#58 - 2011-12-09 02:31:45 UTC
Everyone exept those bigest alliances can move back to highsec now....
A smaller alliance can not eaven have supers anymore... after nerf.

Welcome to highsec Bear

No troll.

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#59 - 2011-12-09 02:40:18 UTC
Tore Vest wrote:
Everyone exept those bigest alliances can move back to highsec now....
A smaller alliance can not eaven have supers anymore... after nerf.

Welcome to highsec Bear



Well, according to the OP a piddly 90 man corp is taking over huge numbers of planets in Low Sec.

So much for your theory.

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Olleybear
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#60 - 2011-12-09 02:57:20 UTC
Sorry OP and everyone thinking like the OP. You want a Customs Office, your gonna have to take the risk of it getting shot by those stronger than you and taking it from you. Just like anyone else that puts these up.

If you want to limit the number of Customs Offices someone holds, then you need to start shooting them or get someone to shoot them for you. Many other people have previously said these same things.

It never ceases to amaze me how much RL seeps into Eve. People all over the planet want someone to take care of something for them too, just like in Eve. God forbid they actually, you know, work for it themselves.

It is possible to solo Eve and be successfull. It requires more than warping to zero and pressing F1-F8. Use your brain, learn game mechanics, if one thing your try doesnt work you try something else.

Why is it someone elses fault you cant do something? Just freaking do it.

When it comes to PvP, I am like a chiwawa hanging from a grizzley bears pair of wrinklies for dear life.