Ships & Modules

Ok first. Yes post unicorn fits please! As someone else already posted "post fit for splooge please" cause yea, eve porn thanks.

Second. I run missions and if I enjoy flying a ship in them I will trick it out. Coming back to eve my favorite ship is easily the Sleipnir, so look what ship instantly got pith x xl booster and boost amp. I'd gladly drop the isk for gistum ab's rep fleet gyros, pith shield hardeners and d**n I'd even buy an officer web for it too (I don't even need a web, like ever, but I like using it!). I may not have a hg crystal set but you can bet I'd happily buy one if I didn't have other dumb/wasteful stuff my sweet care bear tuckus wanted first.

I haven't run with my Sleipnir in low or null sec. But I have run mael's and mach's that easily cost around the 3b mark in low sec before. Would I pvp in them? Heck no I'm **** at pvp! If I could pvp and had good group to run with I would fly something stupid expensive.

But don't tell me mission runners don't use stupid expensive fits on less than ideal ships cause yea, I do (and as stated, said ships invariably get put in positions they have the potential to be expensive loss mails). It is a game, and tricked out deadspace fit t2 ships are fun (besides it's a freakin 'cane hull! That's smexy!)

Keep posting crazy fits, I love me some eve porn! And g'damn it's fun to fantasize about some of em.

As mentioned I was not looking for billion isk fits.

I think this post served its purpose and should be locked. Probably should've been two pages ago.

Thanks for the advice though!

tthe 18% implant bottoms out at about .5B as it costs 250k concord LP and 250m isk to buy from concord.

I'm afraid the forums are rife with people who have opinions on things that they have no expereince with - or have experience with things that are extremely uncommon and situational - they then use that experience and apply it in broad terms to all of Eve.

You just have to live with it :(

If you're ever looking to try wh, hit me up in game. We play eve, not EFT. Good luck in space!

I will contribute from my own experience, and explain why in a small gang I fly with, I exclusively fly command ship over having an off-grid T3 booster, although I am max-skilled for all command ships and all T3s.

The gang size I normally fly with has 5~6 pilots, and we compose our fleet like this

1. Command Ship (EOS or Absolution) = Boost + DPS
2. Recon (Rapier or Arazu) = Probe + Tackle + Scout + Field Control
3. 2 ships of any combination consisting of HACs/T3s

Because we fly armor, the ships we use are;

Deimos/Ishtar, Zealot/Sacrilege, Proteus/Legion/Loki - we pick two from any of these ships depending on mood

When we have a less skilled pilot join our gang, then all armor BCs or cruisers are welcome in this section, although T2 resists really helps in a gang of this size with logi support.

4. Logi (Oneiros) : if we have 2 Logis, then Guardians can be good but we like Oneiros with its tracking links and ability to fit remote sebo+ECCM, so 2 x Oneiros is great too. If we have a Domi on the field, sometimes we cap chain the Guardian with Dominix (in this case Dominix also remote reps the Guardian as it can't use range control to stay out of fight due to having to stay within Dominix's cap transfer range)

5. Battleship (Armageddon/Tempest - for heavy neuts and DPS) or any other armor T3 or HAC (This is when we have one more pilot)

I usually fly the command ship, and if I brought in an alt it would be another DPS or Recon instead of an off-grid booster. Probing can be done easily by Arazu or Rapier with great tackling ability as well as offering big advantage in field control during engagement. At the same time, a command ship offers much needed DPS and BETTER boost than T3 to boot. In a gang size of five or six, extra 600 DPS is huge.

With logi support, in this size of a gang command ship will not be primaried normally because the other gang of 5 or 6, even if they are all DPS ships, will struggle to break down a command ship with logi support and links (and Slaves).

EOS can have 4 links (3 armor links + 1 skirmish link) and still have drone bay full of DPS while sporting BS tank and T2 resists, and Abso with Information link (sensor integrity is what I use) can be great when the opposition has Falcon support.

We can be all buffer fit, or we can even go all active as all Gallente and Amarr HACs and T3s active tank like beast. Add the links from the command ship itself + logi + drugs, you are looking at a 5 men gang that can take a gang double its size or even bigger depending on the opposition's fleet composition.

Until the fleet size gets much bigger, I will not consider an off-grid booster that will sit idle somewhere while offering less boost than a command ship.

PS: Yes, I LOVE Command Ships, lol.

Side note: I also tried Sleipnir + shield gang with some success, and our gang members all have nice cross-trained skills for both shield and armor, but...

1) We love brawling

2) With exception of Tengu with HAMs, shield HACs and T3s have meh DPS compared to what Gallente line-up can offer (Deimos, Ishtar and Proteus), and Gallente ships are pretty mobile too even compared to shield ships when active tanked.

3) Shield recon is really flimsy in tank. This is often problematic because sometimes it's hard to survive and hang on to targets until the rest of gang arrives, especially if under sentry gun fire in low-sec or jumping into tackle a gang on its own (here, being armor tanked will let you fit multiple tackles too). T2 Trimarked and slaved armor recon on the other hand has surprisingly high EHP and great staying power on the field.

I didn't get to where I am in eve by speaking out and showing myself in public. :p

You entirely missed the poin t - not teh cost but WHAT you spent it on. You get better performance for less isk - it's not a discussion, it's a fact.

P.s.

Incursions are watered down WoW raids. No one thinks running incursions makes you good at Eve. I'd be more inclined to say there aren't any loss mails from these fit's because:

90% of these fits:
-Where never bought
-Where never Fitted
-Where never flown

of the remaining 10% most of them:
-May have been fitted, but never flown
-Have never been used for anything but a few random missions, then mothballed

and finally, of the 1% that have used them in PVP:
-Most have been used in large scale ganks, probably a high-sec war (meaning enemies where unable to fight back)

Final note: People who flew these wouldn't be PVP'ers (PVP'ers would spend money on effective ships instead of pointlessly shiny loss mails) - the PVE'ers who did lose them wouldn't own a Killboard or plug their API into a killboard for these to be shown.

Being a bad is being a bad. Target order is target order. Both of those detract from my isk/hr and theirs and make me have to farm longer to fund the next piece of content or craziness.
As for being worried about someone like that and banning him, WTF would I do that for. He won't ever try to get in, and thus won't ever find out, and so no tears. Why put in effort for no tears?

Yeah, that's why out of 50k players, we only found 1500 incursion runners that can follow the orders of 30 or 40 FC's and 15 HQ fc's, so we can do PVE to fund High end PVP.