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Bring back Gravi-Signatures and Delete the Ore Sites
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Verran Skarne
4 Marketeers
#21 - 2014-08-09 06:01:46 UTC
+1 to bringing back having to scan these inside wormholes. It was a really dumb and lazy change in Odyssey that nobody liked.
umnikar
Fishbone Industries
#22 - 2014-08-09 06:37:33 UTC  |  Edited by: umnikar
umnikar wrote:

Damn, let em mine, let em make lotsa isk. The lack of pvp in eve at all really has other reasons.


No wait, this aint gonna work. Whos paying for the game then?
And not that they are creating anti-content and miners suddenly sit in t3 to defend their grounds ;D
Adriana Nolen
Sama Guild
#23 - 2014-08-09 06:51:21 UTC
Leave mining sites as is. Maybe add some ice.
Make gas sites just like mining sites, no probes needed.
calaretu
Honestly We didnt know
#24 - 2014-08-09 09:33:37 UTC
+1
+1
+1
=+3!

~Bringer of happiness

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Navigation Boy
Edge Dancers
Pan-Intergalatic Business Community
#25 - 2014-08-09 23:18:35 UTC
+1
Too much risk. Barges have become the unicorn of WH space.
Agatir Solenth
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#26 - 2014-08-10 17:10:35 UTC
I used to enjoy hunting Hulks... Where have all the real miners gone?

Totally agree with this suggestion.

+1
Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#27 - 2014-08-10 22:34:32 UTC
I don't know what's up with you guys but I mined 2 billion ISK worth of ore this past week. If you're not willing to put a Retriever on the line then that's a you thing, not a game thing.

Green ore sites are fine. Maybe add some (rare) sites that you have to scan down.

Do the same thing with gas.

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist
Mithandra
B.O.P Supplication For Glorious
Dracarys.
#28 - 2014-08-14 13:39:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Mithandra
Everything in wormholes should require scanning down.

Perhaps make some of them easier to scan, but everything should require scanning down

Eve is the dark haired, totally hot emo gothchild of the gaming community
XvXTeacherVxV
Be Nice Inc.
Prismatic Legion
#29 - 2014-08-14 16:32:14 UTC
Xuixien wrote:
I don't know what's up with you guys but I mined 2 billion ISK worth of ore this past week. If you're not willing to put a Retriever on the line then that's a you thing, not a game thing.

Green ore sites are fine. Maybe add some (rare) sites that you have to scan down.

Do the same thing with gas.


What, no mackinaw? Too risky?

+1 to bringing back grav sites.

Would like to see some rare ice spawns too.
Can you see the rapier?: http://imgur.com/aFelCpv,GH6lqDE
Icarus Able
Refuse.Resist
#30 - 2014-08-15 02:05:57 UTC
+1
Hans Bonderstadt
#31 - 2014-08-15 02:26:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Hans Bonderstadt
+1
Pros: yes
Cons: poop more sigs

inb4 ccp doesnt read nor care about any of this
Based corbexx pls halp

the trap is our venue pussy is on the menu
Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising
Goonswarm Federation
#32 - 2014-08-15 03:39:58 UTC
+1

I'd like to return to w-space sometime soon and this change is just ... well ... kinda tragic.

W-space life, and profit, depended largely on skills and occasionally on numbers. When i'd finished with all the juicier activities I'd go mining, happily confident that my understanding of dynamics, skill, and care made it unlikely that an evil-person would get the jump on me. Occasionally said evil-person applied decent skills to their game and caught me unawares ... kudos to them for doing that.

Mining anoms turns towards the nullsec mining mindset ... jump and shotgun all the anoms guys. I play that in null often enough, having it also apply to beloved w-space just reduces the mana of those regions.

Sadface!

I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. I build and sell many things, including large collections of bookmarks.
Pavel Sohaj
BAND of MAGNUS
#33 - 2014-08-15 07:22:04 UTC
Mithandra wrote:
Everything in wormholes should require scanning down.

Perhaps make some of them easier to scan, but everything should require scanning down


This sums up everything pretty much.
Rek Seven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2014-08-15 07:26:21 UTC
i thought i posted already...

Signed

The wishlist is pretty much complete...
Chrisbek
Evil Bandit Organisation
#35 - 2014-08-15 10:17:16 UTC
+1, i use to enjoy mining in grav sites but now it is just not smart to daytrip to them(for ore anyway).

Bring back the times of me getting my mining ships blown up by lokis!
Amak Boma
Dragon Factory
xX SERENITY Xx
#36 - 2014-08-15 10:48:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Amak Boma
+1 but cloaky proteus will still find you and want to kill you.
but hey it would be much safer anyway as you always can see probeson dscan so u can easily warp out if is dangerous

small question , what does do mobile scan inhibitor? it seem to be expensive , one time use and do notthing
Fluffi Flaffi
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#37 - 2014-08-15 11:08:37 UTC
Chesterfield Fancypantz wrote:
I want to see the opposite.

Mining shouldnt be risk free, you shouldnt get probes to warn you.

Lets make gas sites also show up as anoms.

Make it so scanning is for finding wormholes and data/relic sites.

Too many times I look at 20 sigs only to see 3/4 of them are **** gas sites.


You don't do combat-scanning very often, do you?

If you know your job it only Needs 1 scan to scan down a barge, i.e. only a few seconds they can see my probes on scan.

The Change from signatures to anos just brought less and less miners in w-space, i.e. less and less content. As I wrote mostly only the new ones try this. Giving w-space community back the grav-site signatures every party will benefit:

- miners will start mining a lot more, because they feel more safe and thus will
- hunters find more targets and need to improve their scanning skills (both type of skills ;) ) to improve success ratio killing miners.

I don't see where this is bad at all, unless you are a general hater of anything.
And I see the feedback and the people giving feedback here clearly shows the wish to have this changed back to provide more content overall for anybody.
Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#38 - 2014-08-15 11:50:46 UTC
XvXTeacherVxV wrote:
Xuixien wrote:
I don't know what's up with you guys but I mined 2 billion ISK worth of ore this past week. If you're not willing to put a Retriever on the line then that's a you thing, not a game thing.

Green ore sites are fine. Maybe add some (rare) sites that you have to scan down.

Do the same thing with gas.


What, no mackinaw? Too risky?

+1 to bringing back grav sites.

Would like to see some rare ice spawns too.


I only have Mining Barge V.

I like WHs being risky and unsafe. Dare to be bold, pilot!

Keep it the way it is. WH purists are just hiding their risk aversion behind ideology.

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist
Judas Lonestar
Stryker Industries
Stryker Group
#39 - 2014-08-15 23:35:10 UTC
How about both? Have low/mid grade ores in sigs, high grade ores in anoms.

You want risk/reward, there ya go.
Klarion Sythis
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#40 - 2014-08-15 23:40:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Klarion Sythis
+1

It's not balanced between the hunter and the hunted.

Edit: perspective of a hunter
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